New Mordekaiser needs nerf

HornToad··33 votes·11,131 views

So you rework a champ that can take the jungler out of a battle for 7 secs and steal 10% of his stats. What about that sounds right? What other champ can remove a player from the board for that long via stun or some other ability? Rework fail - too OP.

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Nosferatü18 votes

Morde is a piece of shit rework... give him 3 kills and he will 1 v 5 the team seriously riot made a monster.. A FACT !!

StoicSwordsman12 votes

I mostly play top and I can honestly say I have never met this kind of frustration since Illaoi but even she didn't have me pulling my hair out like this. He's pretty much a team problem every game where anyone is even slightly capable, and a lot of mordekaisers (maybe just the ones in my elo) are taking ignite instead of teleport so once they cheese the first kill and sustain through to 6 where every ult is pretty much a kill you might as well start up the voting for that ff. I mean even during ganks post level 6 it's all to easy for him to ult you or the jungle kill them in the shadow realm and then proceed to shove that mace where the sun don't shine, and like mentioned above he can take the jungle out of any smite fight if you don't have a cc breaker.

As far kiting him, I really hate this argument because in this game it's way too easy to mobilize easy champion between item 3116 item 3022 item 3025 to slow down faster or escaping champs and even the new hextech item 3152 do give a small dash forward to catch up or slow champs down it's not hard for them to catch you as you might think unless you have a dash/blink and your flash is also up. Which brings me to his pull which just once again makes it even easier to grab anyone who might be considered safe from him.

MalignMetal6 votes

LOL

Deνiruchi6 votes

The fun part is on Baron fights, if he ults the enemy jungler, your team will always win Baron with smite simply because their team doesn't have smite at all, unless you have champs like Cho :l

M JORDAN REALLY5 votes

Jesus fucking christ! Mordekeiser's buff was clear proof that Riot has lost their mind! Even in the jungle, he's an absolute nightmare and there is literally no way to beat Mord unless the player is brand spanking new,(like right out of the tutorial new), or if the mord is inting. Riot needs fix this atrocity of a champion and needs to smack him with a nerf so big that it sends him flying out of existence. Literally mord is the bastion of league.(before nerf) FIX YOUR GAME RITO!!!!!!!!!!!

Support Position3 votes

item 3140 item 3222 item 3102 Morgana item 3157 Sivir Nocturne

All spell shields get rid of the ult if you use it while he casts on you. Qss you get out, mikeals you get out instantly.

DrMundo You win.

Kit him. Run around like a chicken with his head cut off. summoner 6 summoner 3 summoner 11 item 3706

item 3026 Oh you died? He gets nothing and you come back.

Learn to counter him instead [sg-kiko]

MysteryMoo8 votes

Merc is the only item there that reliably works(banshees veil is always up so him just breathing on you will blow it, and zhonyas requires precise timing that you probably won’t be able to pull it off in a teamfight) and merc is just not a really good item on most champs. Mikeals is a shitty item and building it on anything but a support is a waste of a slot.

Yeah if Morde builds a morrellos and/or runs ignite your not winning with mundo. Also when has a single champion been an excuse for a champ not being op.

Kiting him is not an option. If Mordekaiser buys a rylais his passive is an aoe slow. AND IT GIVES MOVEMENT SPEED so no you aren’t doing it by conventional methods. Also using a summoner spell that is on a longer cool down than his ult is dummy stupid.

Also building a ga is again a stupid answer how is that a response to anything. It is on a 5 min cool down in response to an ultimate which has a far lower cool down. People are complaining that he feels unfair to play against. Of course he is easy to play against if you have flash cleanse a ga and ghost. But once you’ve burned all of that you still have to worry about the rest of his fucking team

Support Position3 votes

Morgana If I can morgana black shield his ult. You can Zonyas it. Its called practising :) interesting concept on the boards huh?

Never seen a morde with summoner 14 item 3165 is a 3k told item. Beat him.

item 3009 Goodbye item 3116 item 3009 900 gold itewm that completely nuffilies item 3116 btw.

I have no yet seen a single person complain about his ult. Except you. And the people that dont wanna learn to counter things. item 3140 or buy an item to play around it.

First, learn how to play against that champion. Then speak after you have any knowledge of the game and what you need to do as a player to counter YOUR weaknesses. As they are not mine.

EDIT: If your that bad at playing Mundo I get it. Hes not for everyone "hes boring and isn't played very much and that's not a good thing"

Graves W and kit item 3009 TahmKench You just own the game unless you suck. Quinn Blind him and run around. Not hard. Q and E. Oh look his ults practically done now if you actually play aroiund with him properly and blind him and use the fuill duration without using e. Interesting. Teemo Use bushes.... Q... Shrooms.... Kit.... Darius Kill him. Fiora LOL easy mode. Kit, repost his ult, kill him. Lots and lots of options. Learn one. Chogath I live forever. Illaoi Main fight him make him your slave. Jax Lol don't get me started. Irelia Kiting you say? Damage you say? Gnar I heard kit. Kayle I heard you wanted to kill me. Kled Wanna man fight me? Good luck buddy. Lissandra Hum... You moving? That's not happening. Nasus Q. Olaf Goodbye ult. Poppy Wanted to kill me? Good luck. Rammus Kill yourself by hitting yourself. Rumble Q Renekton I outlast you. Sejuani I definitely outlast you, do true damage to max hp and kit you. Goodbye silly armour man. Riven And you're dead. Sivir Goodbye ult. Swain R Zonyas. Tryndamere Lol. Veigar R. Vladimir W Zonyas. Yasuo Oops he died. Windwall E. Zed And R roll face on keyboard. I won the fight. Zilean Dont want GA? Kk. Zoe Go to sleep... Go to sleep... Go to sleep little metal man.

This is a YOU problem. Not a champion problem.

Learn, adapt. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Lushsmoke18 votes

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Morgana If I can morgana black shield his ult. You can Zonyas it. Its called practising :) interesting concept on the boards huh?

Never seen a morde with summoner 14 item 3165 is a 3k told item. Beat him.

item 3009 Goodbye item 3116 item 3009 900 gold itewm that completely nuffilies item 3116 btw.

I have no yet seen a single person complain about his ult. Except you. And the people that dont wanna learn to counter things. item 3140 or buy an item to play around it.

First, learn how to play against that champion. Then speak after you have any knowledge of the game and what you need to do as a player to counter YOUR weaknesses. As they are not mine.

EDIT: If your that bad at playing Mundo I get it. Hes not for everyone "hes boring and isn't played very much and that's not a good thing"

Graves W and kit item 3009 TahmKench You just own the game unless you suck. Quinn Blind him and run around. Not hard. Q and E. Oh look his ults practically done now if you actually play aroiund with him properly and blind him and use the fuill duration without using e. Interesting. Teemo Use bushes.... Q... Shrooms.... Kit.... Darius Kill him. Fiora LOL easy mode. Kit, repost his ult, kill him. Lots and lots of options. Learn one. Chogath I live forever. Illaoi Main fight him make him your slave. Jax Lol don't get me started. Irelia Kiting you say? Damage you say? Gnar I heard kit. Kayle I heard you wanted to kill me. Kled Wanna man fight me? Good luck buddy. Lissandra Hum... You moving? That's not happening. Nasus Q. Olaf Goodbye ult. Poppy Wanted to kill me? Good luck. Rammus Kill yourself by hitting yourself. Rumble Q Renekton I outlast you. Sejuani I definitely outlast you, do true damage to max hp and kit you. Goodbye silly armour man. Riven And you're dead. Sivir Goodbye ult. Swain R Zonyas. Tryndamere Lol. Veigar R. Vladimir W Zonyas. Yasuo Oops he died. Windwall E. Zed And R roll face on keyboard. I won the fight. Zilean Dont want GA? Kk. Zoe Go to sleep... Go to sleep... Go to sleep little metal man.

This is a YOU problem. Not a champion problem.

Learn, adapt. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Graves: Too squishy to outlast a morde. Morde builds Rylai's so graves can't kite Tahm Kench: Morde has enough sustain spamming his W to survive until level 6. Morde steals tahm's stats and wins easily. It doesn't help that morde's passive is still active and hurting tahm when tahm swallows him. Teemo: Doesn't counter Morde at all. Not even close. Also Morde removes teemo shrooms Quinn: Too Squishy, Morde will one shot her. Darius: Morde outscales Darius HARD. Even at level 6 once he steals darius's stats he will be in a world of pain. Fiora: Can beat morde but very hard matchup, Fiora is incredibly squishy and Morde's shield is insane. If Morde doesn't get stunned by Fiora parry he wins, a smart morde just won't use his E until he sees Fiora parry, and without that parry play fiora losses. Cho Gath: Haha no. Illaoi: Morde ult removes tentacles so no. Jax: 50/50 matchup Irelia: No. Gnar: Morde only loses if he doesn't know how to land E. Wins level 6 easily. Kayle: Morde bullies her the entire game. Even level 16 kayle with full build has trouble with Morde. Kled: Gets bodied by Morde. No debate. Lissandra: The ONLY way she counters morde in anyway is by using her ult to out of death realm, but that's not beating him. Nasus: Only 1000 stack nasus can beat a full build morde (There's video proof of that) Olaf: Skill matchup. Mordekaiser still out-damages olaf. Rumble: Maybe. His damage is pretty insane. Mordekaiser R again demolishes him though. Renekton: Does he really? Mordekaiser's W provides insane sustain. Renek benefits from short burst attacks and killing quickly, but mordekaiser has a big ass shield that can block that huge incoming damage. Sejuani: haha no Riven: Riven is riven and can practically 1v1 any champ. One of the only champs that can flat out beat Mordekaiser in lane. Sivir: Morde still one shots her without using ult. No. Swain: Ok? You got out of his ult congrats. He's still gonna whack you to death right when you leave zhonyas. Tryndamere: Losses hard until level 6 then it becomes a skill matchup. Morde can use Rylai's to kite tryn while he's undying rage is active. Veigar: His R doesn't flat out one shot people. And Morde shield. Vladimir: No. Late game possibly but if the mordes smart and gets zhonyas he wins. Yasuo: Morde early game is better than Yasuo when he hasn't built any crit. Level 6 he demolishes Yasuo. Windwalling E won't do shit if his E isn't the move that does all the damage. Zed: No. Morde is way too healthy for zed to one shot. Kite? Maybe, but Zed can't compete with Morde in a fight. Zilean: Why would Morde in his right mind ult a zilean??? In lane morde would body him. Zoe: Her bubble is heavily telegraphed and incredibly easy to dodge. And even if drowsed he still can make some plays and body her before he's drowsed. He might not kill her but he'll certainly almost kill her.

Zork Nemehsis4 votes

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Graves: Too squishy to outlast a morde. Morde builds Rylai's so graves can't kite Tahm Kench: Morde has enough sustain spamming his W to survive until level 6. Morde steals tahm's stats and wins easily. It doesn't help that morde's passive is still active and hurting tahm when tahm swallows him. Teemo: Doesn't counter Morde at all. Not even close. Also Morde removes teemo shrooms Quinn: Too Squishy, Morde will one shot her. Darius: Morde outscales Darius HARD. Even at level 6 once he steals darius's stats he will be in a world of pain. Fiora: Can beat morde but very hard matchup, Fiora is incredibly squishy and Morde's shield is insane. If Morde doesn't get stunned by Fiora parry he wins, a smart morde just won't use his E until he sees Fiora parry, and without that parry play fiora losses. Cho Gath: Haha no. Illaoi: Morde ult removes tentacles so no. Jax: 50/50 matchup Irelia: No. Gnar: Morde only loses if he doesn't know how to land E. Wins level 6 easily. Kayle: Morde bullies her the entire game. Even level 16 kayle with full build has trouble with Morde. Kled: Gets bodied by Morde. No debate. Lissandra: The ONLY way she counters morde in anyway is by using her ult to out of death realm, but that's not beating him. Nasus: Only 1000 stack nasus can beat a full build morde (There's video proof of that) Olaf: Skill matchup. Mordekaiser still out-damages olaf. Rumble: Maybe. His damage is pretty insane. Mordekaiser R again demolishes him though. Renekton: Does he really? Mordekaiser's W provides insane sustain. Renek benefits from short burst attacks and killing quickly, but mordekaiser has a big ass shield that can block that huge incoming damage. Sejuani: haha no Riven: Riven is riven and can practically 1v1 any champ. One of the only champs that can flat out beat Mordekaiser in lane. Sivir: Morde still one shots her without using ult. No. Swain: Ok? You got out of his ult congrats. He's still gonna whack you to death right when you leave zhonyas. Tryndamere: Losses hard until level 6 then it becomes a skill matchup. Morde can use Rylai's to kite tryn while he's undying rage is active. Veigar: His R doesn't flat out one shot people. And Morde shield. Vladimir: No. Late game possibly but if the mordes smart and gets zhonyas he wins. Yasuo: Morde early game is better than Yasuo when he hasn't built any crit. Level 6 he demolishes Yasuo. Windwalling E won't do shit if his E isn't the move that does all the damage. Zed: No. Morde is way too healthy for zed to one shot. Kite? Maybe, but Zed can't compete with Morde in a fight. Zilean: Why would Morde in his right mind ult a zilean??? In lane morde would body him. Zoe: Her bubble is heavily telegraphed and incredibly easy to dodge. And even if drowsed he still can make some plays and body her before he's drowsed. He might not kill her but he'll certainly almost kill her.

i dont understand the downvotes lmao , youre telling the truth here

BloodyGrim2 votes

On the list there is ONE adc for which u need insane reaction time to press sivir shield since u have to press it before he ults u. Also, which toplaner gets 3 kills and destroys whole team? Which toplaner does tons of dmg, has a long pull ( that is wide so iron ppl dont miss it), is tanky and has 1v1 tool. Its easy to steal baron with him too since he can ult enemy jungler. He can simply ult fed adc and he wins whole teamfight. Also, the advice u gave doesnt work in low elos. Noone kites. He has great wave clear too. Btw theres no chance of Zoe beating Morde. Ur b2 and ur giving ppl advice xDDDD

KubalaLGT1 votes

This feels like someone who really loves new Mordekaiser.

Support Position1 votes

Read my name again.

Nosferatü8 votes

Dude morde mid i play ap assassin why would i go for qss he is broken shit. So what 5 people need to take a qss xD ? thats automatically -5k gold on full team.

Support Position1 votes

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HazeukOtroll3 votes

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Mordekaiser Yuumi Qiyana TahmKench Lux

Just fucking ban it then, take the other 4 im done trying to give anyone any kind of learning on the boards. Too many fucking rtards.

Dude,i can only ban 1 champ at a time.As a nasus player i have to permaban darius,since nasus has a strict laning phase and needs stacks to live and because darius is a bully i can't play against him,he can easily deny all of my stacks, so i permaban him,but now that's where fking reworked morde comes into place,i see 4-5 mastery lvl morde players beating the sh*t out of me cause of their Q and E combos which contribute to morde's passive stack,so if they get the full combo on me ( E+Q ) he has to just autohit me to get his passive activated,which is the worst thing,especially early game where our movement speed is equal and he can keep me in his passive range.Even if i manage to stack and get him low he has his W which btw gives him shield and health so he can be invunerable to my Q Spam and outdamage me with his passive and Q.By the way forgot to mention that Morde hasn't any costs for ALL of his abilities,yep! so he can E+Q spam me to the dirt...,and he can just push me back with his E if he is in a dangerous situation.So i believe that morde needs some nerfs to his passive,Q+E CDR's, early movement speed and W shield and healing

LordGeovanni1 votes

You trying to make your statment as the be all end all of vs mordekaiser when it doesnt fit in most champions playstyle and he can just ult some one not spells shielded. Not to mention Morde's ult start up animation is small and unnoticable its really just a slight movment of his character which isnt really easy to tell diffrent from him moving Its not like he turns your screen red on start up. or makes a massive noise que like Sion or Kled for a much stronger spell.

Gradeient2 votes

It's only possible to counter him if he's on a balanced state. He's sitting at a 52% winrate and Riot haven't said anything about him since he got the "hotfix", and he is still disabled on professional games. I want to see a justification of why he's disabled on professional games (Probably because he's op...) And also why he hadn't received any nerfs since the "hotfix". it's very frustrating to play aganist him, he's probably the most frustrating champion in League atm and he has a relatively easy kit so every player from any rank can just spam and start climbing. I really hope he's getting nerfs soon, I can't wait more.

Zork Nemehsis1 votes

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It's only possible to counter him if he's on a balanced state. He's sitting at a 52% winrate and Riot haven't said anything about him since he got the "hotfix", and he is still disabled on professional games. I want to see a justification of why he's disabled on professional games (Probably because he's op...) And also why he hadn't received any nerfs since the "hotfix". it's very frustrating to play aganist him, he's probably the most frustrating champion in League atm and he has a relatively easy kit so every player from any rank can just spam and start climbing. I really hope he's getting nerfs soon, I can't wait more.

hes the most stat-checky champion atm , sure you can dodge his pull but even once he pulls you , morde passive does the rest , the move speed and dot damage applying rylais too , then the conquerer procs and literally you cant kill him after that (if you dont have another broken tier shit that is ) , i dont have problem with his q damage but that passive needs to be gutted , like right now , seriously

SupersayanDarius1 votes

Every Champ is outplayable but some are just too hard to counter.Darius and Mordekaiser are the strongest Top laners rn and there will always be a strong Champ. But you honestly think that a chamption like morde that not only has a giant shield spell but also a passive that deals a lot of damage is ok for the game? I think you guys at riot should start listening to the community and just responding to the Complaints and telling them to start playing champs that counter morde a bit won't help. Just help us to enjoy the Game we used to love. (There are very nice phases in League but u guys always ruin it. Aatrox rework, Sylas, Neeko and now Morde.)

BoomTitanium3 votes

I agree. I think the upside on this champ is way to high when he is played against other tanks in lane. You can counter pick him sure but if you dont get the chance to do so you pretty much lose the game.. doesn't feel good to play against him at all when he is ahead. Doesn't feel good to play against him in a team fight. Doesn't feel good to play against him 1v1 unless you counter picked which is a good reason to nerf. Just doesn't feel good at all. Crappy champ design if you ask me. I think good champ design rewards good decision making and skill and this champ doesnt do that. You just smash your mace and single out the carry. So dumb..... Take away his movespeed buff or shorten his ult time or something. Maybe damage scaling or range on his smash idk this dude is broken right now. Auto ban for me from now on.

AnxiousPringle3 votes

They seriously need to nerf him. If a mordekaiser can withstand a velkoz ult, jhin ult that hits every single one, a lux ult, and still have full health and get a multikill... there's a problem. Fix it riot.

saltofsaltness1 votes

ONLY Vayne worked for me. Until 6 it is.

3ternalkarma1 votes
  1. eh when i see enemy team pick morde i just pick Gangplank orKarma top Orange out of his ult or fight him in his ult as Karma since no way is a Morde killing a tank karma
LordGeovanni1 votes

Mordekaiser needs a 30-13 second downtime on his passive i cant even fight him in top lane while he can easily land his low cooldown high damage Q on me Bursting me and doing the same 2 seoncds later (if he doesnt build much cdr) but the worst is trying to take advantage of his Q down time and his Passive doing % max hp damage on me. In addition to that cooldown it needs to completely lose the % max hp damage and get a base damage buff so it doesnt completely dick on the health stacking top laners that are all the tanks and Fighters. except trinity force users.

ownyou0011 votes

I normally don’t write comments but I’m here to file a complaint on the Mordekaiser it needs a massive nerf for the love of God please just trash the champion or turn it back into that garbage champion it used to be. It makes no sense on how you can 1 v 5 at like 15 mins in the game.

Me Gustas Riven1 votes

YES SO TRUE, literally no one can beat him, he needs a huge nerf

oliverbt341 votes

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