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About the Rengar Q revert (When is it coming on live?)

DeafLord··1 votes·8,944 views

So i know that i should write or post this on the PBE site but anyway lets get to the main point so we know that he is getting his old Q and im really happy because Rengar was my first champ when i started playing , so the think i need is when is he coming out ? I mean in a week maybe 2 ? Anyways if anyone knows i would be happy to know as well , hope you have a good day!Rengar

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HaIlMonitor1 votes

8.4 hopefully. So about 3 weeks or so.

DeafLord1 votes

Oh so i guess march ?

Pokemonred2001 votes

It should hit around February 21st.

Tesni Pi4ki 1511 votes

Can someone create and account in PBE for me please, i can't wait until 21st i want to play Rengar so much!

DeafLord1 votes

I once got a chance for a PBE account but the game didnt start because of an error and had to re-download league haven't tried ever since

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

what is rengar's Q like? ive only really played the current rengar, and i do like the idea of his AOE slash and the short lunge forward. So what made his old Q so loved? curious [sg-soraka]

UMU Emperor2 votes

The old rengar used to be able to "triple q", effectively destroying your target instantly with 3 empowered autos.

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

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The old rengar used to be able to "triple q", effectively destroying your target instantly with 3 empowered autos.

so like it empowers your AA 3 times like Rek 'Sai? or at least the old rengar anyways. That's really interesting

DeafLord1 votes

No its more like you activate Q and your next basic is stronger but it can crit and heal and be used while in ulti the one-shot made him so loved to me the reason is simply because its my first champ and critting someone to death and one-shotting them its fun and makes you feel strong (he says triple because the cooldown is low and u can insta with empowered attack)

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

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No its more like you activate Q and your next basic is stronger but it can crit and heal and be used while in ulti the one-shot made him so loved to me the reason is simply because its my first champ and critting someone to death and one-shotting them its fun and makes you feel strong (he says triple because the cooldown is low and u can insta with empowered attack)

lol yeah i know the feeling of one shotting them to death. it's fun as hell, and hilarious to see reaction. i do that with Ahri using item 3041(i can hold 25 stacks pretty well actually)item 3146item 3100item 3089 item 3135 item 3020 and i can one shot anybody non-tank with E AA Q gunblade (full combo i use is E AA Q Gunblade W (kite around to dodge skillshots and proc all 3 Ws) AA) and it's so much fun XD I mostly main Ahri Diana Evelynn Kayle Shyvana (with item 3078 item 1416 item 3047 item 3153 item 3748 item 3124 lul. as dumb as that sounds it's fucking strong as hell and i can actually one shot with shyvana. i actually managed to outduel and nearly one shot a jax, a counter to shyvana. even he was suprised like o-o where'd i go? XD 3K DPS against dummy)

and that makes sense. So it's a somewhat spammable attack i assume, so like Q and it's like 2...3 second cd??? or something like that then Q emp Q i guess? i may try to get back into rengar again. i have tried him, M3 atm, but i wasnt really good with him so it'd be cool to try to get back into him

Evelynn item 3135 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DeafLord1 votes

He is a bruiser like champ right now, (a reason to bring back his old Q) maybe thats why u cant get into him and thats why i love his old Q u can auto cancel easily and with crit it works very good

H3ntaiPlusheen1 votes

you are not aloud to triple q anymore, you can only double q now

LotsOfCreatine2 votes

it was the best... the new q makes him immobile.. and the other one is like an auto so u can charge it in ut ult

Be Boss 261 votes

It was nice because it was an auto attack reset, with a huge attack steroid on it. Also, unlike current Rengar, it didn't inhibit your movement nearly as much. Current Q locks you in place for the cast duration which is why there is a camp of Rengar players that believes it is "clunky" or feels "unnatural." I certainly don't wish to alienate people who like Rengar as he is, nor do I wish to alienate ADC mains (lol). But old Rengar had a satisfying kit, and the biggest issue was always that it was difficult to buff/nerf him without his damage being op/negligible.

I certainly miss the old Q more, which is why I'm happy about this revert. But a part of me misses a few things.

One, the empowered Q was even MORE damage, not an AS increase. I may be okay with this, but I'll have to try it out first.

Two, his passive stacks used to affect gameplay rather than just be steroids. I enjoyed faster MS in brush, and larger jump radius, given I met a certain number of kills. Rengar IMO got the short end of the stick when he managed to win the hunt with kha'zix, but even then, you didn't have to kill every person on the enemy team to fully utilize the passive. I think the current passive is thematically pleasing, but I am very reluctant to want to get those stacks when almost inevitably ONE if not more of the enemy get fed. On top of that, if you decide to take Rengar anywhere other than jungle, you inherently lower your chances of getting those stacks until you're able to roam. ASSUMING you're able to roam in the first place, cause most people you ask will tell you that Rengar is not good in lane under usual circumstances. Too many tanky bruisers in top lane that will out tank AND out damage Rengar in his current form, Mid is #nobrush for the most part and thus no easy engage w/o ult, and bot is usually only pulled off with a thresh support and an enemy support not doing their job well. Also I was never a fan of the disappearing passive stacks. I get this was to stop triple q or something else entirely perhaps, but it made me feel more in control. Now I feel like I have to fill out a checklist to keep my stacks, basically just keep auto attacking stuff as opposed to still be able to freeze a lane (more applicable to top than jg) AND save my stacks for whatever I planned on doing with them in the immediate future.

Three, his ult. This was my biggest qualm with the rework. The introduction of camouflage vs. invisibility vexed me. I totally get that people were sick of a fed Rengar bursting them out of nowhere, and I totally get that part of me is simply obsessed with being on the dealing end of that damage transaction, but when it went from being able to stand next to all of them with none of them knowing, to them being able to see you from a (seemingly to me) huge distance and know exactly who it is that you are closest to and you only have vision of who ever is targeted, rather than everyone in the area, it became immensely unenjoyable for me to play him. In fact for the first 10-20 games I played as him post rework I still had to smack myself on the head and remind myself that they could in fact see me coming. I would always get frustrated and say "How did they know?" only to immediately remember the camouflage mechanic.

Allow me to state that some of these issues go away if the player is extremely good with Rengar, or the enemy is just bad. I'm sure there are those who pull off even mid Rengar with ease, but I am not among those, and I THINK I'm not alone. (No I'm not asking Riot to make Rengar mid viable btw)

All in all the first paragraph is the answer to your question and the rest is ramblings, but I just needed to vent how I felt about this and took this opportunity.

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

yeah the AS bonus on empowered doesnt make sense. when is rengar gonna need attack speed?

sounds really amazing to be honest, i'd have to get back into rengar eventually, since im starting to main assassins

AR URF1 votes

Never hopefully.

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

sounds like fun. i gotta give it a try on top of swain rework tonight...wait...holy crap it's coming out tonight WOOT!!! [sg-kiko] ...i think....8.3 is on the 7th right? (well at least for swain. Rengar is 8.4 right?) and i never erally got into him that well because i felt like i couldnt do enough damage and he wasn't mobile without bushes/ult. like when i tried him, he felt like he was one of those hope to one shot and walk out and if you dont one shot you're in a pickle.

DeafLord1 votes

Lol hahah i tried him on PBE its the old rengo i remember really just the ult and passive is changed (his old passive was really good u collect tropheis and u get bonuses like double speed on R longer range on passive etc.) but yeah have fun buddy listen a build from me item 3087 item 3031 item 3147 item 3142 item 3158 item 3812 this build is for the new rengar thats coming out in 8.4

Kitsunes Lust1 votes

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Lol hahah i tried him on PBE its the old rengo i remember really just the ult and passive is changed (his old passive was really good u collect tropheis and u get bonuses like double speed on R longer range on passive etc.) but yeah have fun buddy listen a build from me item 3087 item 3031 item 3147 item 3142 item 3158 item 3812 this build is for the new rengar thats coming out in 8.4

niiiiiiiiiice!

lol i've been playing swain. i've went from M5 old swain now to M6 and 1 M7 token in 1 day XD lol he's so fucking op XD

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