Ziggs changes missed the problem

CapitatingBunny·3/25/2015, 6:50:16 PM·46 votes·3,720 views

I was a Ziggs main before the nerf to his Q radius, and in my opinion that's the only thing they should be changing to make him viable again. The radius nerf was just too much in conjunction with all the others.

Right now you can throw a Q and it literally bounces over the enemy, Keep his mana costs high to punish bad throws but make it actually possible to hit a moving enemy with Q.

Even just Bringing the radius to 165 would be a good compromise. 180 to 150 was just too far IMO. As it is right now you can bounce a bomb through an Ulted Nasus with iron elixir, which just doesn't make any sense

A quick maybe or hell no from a rioter would be greatly appreciated.

31 Comments

Knight SoIaire 3/25/2015, 7:02:37 PM22 votes

i actualy agree zigs q reliability was nerfed because bombs were infinite with mana regen nerfs bombs stopped being infinite which lead to ziggs being both unreliable and unable to keep mana wise with his unreliability

so it seems logical to give him the reliability back since mana nerfs took care of him tossing stuff infinitely

The5lacker3/25/2015, 6:51:39 PM9 votes

I'd honestly be more confused if Bouncing Bomb didn't have the ability to bounce over an enemy.

YaoiGirl3/25/2015, 7:00:06 PM7 votes

Yeah, since they nerfed the Q radius Ziggs has been useless for anything but wave clear. Which is sad since he was never that easy to play.

Kitten of Evil3/25/2015, 8:51:04 PM6 votes

I noticed this too, when after a long break from League, I rolled Ziggs in ARAM. "Excellent!" I thought. "I shall spam bombs all over them and kill them with ease!" But alas, it was not so. I was constantly OOM, and the bomb hitbox was laughably smaller than I remembered.

Mana's a start, but the hitbox is the problem.

Leti the Yeti3/26/2015, 9:07:14 AM3 votes

wow ;o i was a ziggs player AFTER his nerfs and actually got into the habit of aiming muh bombs fk me rite?

Anyways, I'd love a break from aiming them things ;l

Marinaras Trench3/25/2015, 9:21:56 PM2 votes

I can hit bombs almost every time, the problem for me at least is mana

Cuz19723/25/2015, 7:14:19 PM2 votes

I always thought his biggest nerf was the Grail nerf.

Zirzon3/25/2015, 9:14:20 PM2 votes

YES PLEASE! I used to love playing Ziggs, but that Q hitbox nerf was just too much... Makes harass very difficult and inconsistent against relatively skilled or mobile players. I strongly agree on making the hitbox in between the new and the old size, though my suggested accompanying nerf is to perhaps slightly lower his Q damage to minions. It really is sad that Ziggs went from my most played champ, to barely played at all. I love the idea of a crazy bomb throwing yordle, but his damage is just too unreliable.

8bj2yMEanN3/26/2015, 12:59:48 AM2 votes

YES I used to main ziggs but after the q radius nerf it's impossible to land a q on anyone who isn't cced.

Fargo793/26/2015, 3:50:52 PM1 votes

the only issue i have ever had with ziggs was the duration of his Mines... they last way too long.. IF he gets CDR he pretty much lay another down..

JimmyNtheKudos3/26/2015, 2:47:04 AM1 votes

I don't know, I'm having a blast (pun intended) with the q buff and the Athene's buff. I do agree that I hated the q radius nerf, but I've gotten so use to it I don't even notice it most of the time.

RisottoNero3/26/2015, 5:23:45 AM1 votes

I agree. Why are they even buffing Ziggs. Too many obnoxious things are popular now that there's no reason to try and bring him back.

Erockandroll3/25/2015, 8:03:59 PM1 votes

Keep in mind that while it's harder to hit a champion. The fact that you can't go oom like you use to makes his Q fairly good at clearing minions. The trick is to use the enemy minions to harass the lane opponent. zone them away from their own minion wave. And if they come to harass you, make use of your passive to win trades.

XxxLumberJackxxX3/26/2015, 12:48:04 AM1 votes

I know the bouncing bomb idea is kind of cool and probably 'separates good from great ziggs players' but I get pissed as fuck when my bomb bounces over someones head