bad players slow us down

DèadEye·Jun 29, 2016·1 votes·791 views

I believe feeders that have been placed in silver should be moved into their own separate division.I recent went from silver 2 to silver 5 duo to afk and trolls and I don't think that it is fair that I am losing lp due to other players. Your lp should be decided on how u did on your role or laning phase.For example lets say I go 14/2 in lane but we lose the match. The amount of lp you lose should be reduced since obvy the loss was not your fault while if u go 3/14 the amount of lp u lose should increase because dying that many times u maybe shouldn't be in the division u are at the moment.

17 Comments

3tysonJun 29, 20164 votes

For example lets say I go 14/2 in lane but we lose the match. The amount of lp you lose should be reduced since obvy the loss was not your fault

this isnt cal of duty if your kdr is perfect you might just be the reason why your team lost the game

also if your playing katarina and you go 20 - 5 and im playing amumu and i go 0-8

theres actualy a pretty big chance that me playing amumu is 100% the reason why this kat is 20 - 5 she would not have gotten anny of those kils if i didnt go in to the midle of the fight and stunned everyone wich caused al those kills

chances are big that all of those kills are there because of amumus plays yet kdr says kat did allot better than amumu,

theres manny more things that go like this i remember when i just played this game, i played a rankd game as teemo and i went full feeder every time someone came to my cause i could not duel annyone litteretly!

yet i won my team that game by splitpushing where the enemy just lacked reaction...

Carry TogetherJun 29, 20163 votes

That's a good example ! Tanks often have negative KDAs, and that's normal.

RookPusherJun 29, 20162 votes

While I agree with the concept, your application isnt' great. Feeders, statistically, do go down. I think using the grading system to determine LP loss is fine, since it would punish the trolls more, but asking for a different division isn't logical.

Carry TogetherJun 29, 20161 votes

Grading system doesnt represent in any case what you did in a game btw, neither do damage curve, or KDA, etc.

RevaliJun 29, 20161 votes

0-20

I didn't do anything this game

or something like brand with the least damage on the team.

they play a part, but not paint the entire picture.

RookPusherJun 29, 20161 votes

uh...how do you mean? It's based on CS, warding, your KDA, and gold. And it's also weighted against other players using the champ. if it doesn't rep. what you did in game, then what does?

Carry TogetherJun 29, 20161 votes

What kind of stat would show that you actually saved the whole game doing a nice Nashor steal ? Or you did the initiation that won the game ? You know what I mean :)

RookPusherJun 29, 20161 votes

I do, but those are:

A. rare B. created because of other failings previously in the game C. by and large, tiny in the scheme of things.

to expound on C a little more, you're not going from S5 to G1 once they start calculating Baron steals.

HeeroTXJun 29, 20162 votes

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What kind of stat would show that you actually saved the whole game doing a nice Nashor steal ? Or you did the initiation that won the game ? You know what I mean :)

Your examples are irrelevant since OP is asking to LOSE less LP when he's effective. If you "won the game" or "saved the whole game" then you're getting your 18-20 LP and OP doesn't care. It only annoys the hell out of people when they lose because of some idiot, ESPECIALLY when that idiot trolls/afks.

Carry TogetherJun 29, 20161 votes

LordGeovanniJun 29, 20161 votes

You are stating examples for trying to prove you won the game for a solution to help you get less LP taken from you when you lose the two are non related.

LordGeovanniJun 29, 20161 votes

I've played with players who get 13/2 games with 200+ cs but they never cross the first tier of enemy towers we win the game i dont think its because of them i think that i who has 180 farm 6/8 but pushed 6 out of the 8 destroyed towers on the map did far more than them who usually ends up being the assassin or marksmen who sits in the back of the fight and does nothing until enemies reach 30% of their max health them come in with their high base damage and scaling skills and large as fuk crits that could have been helpful from the beginning of the fight but the carries on my team seem to just hold it but they would be the ones getting S ranked instead of me

GibberwattJun 29, 20161 votes

This reminds me of a game I played a long time ago. I was blitz support, and I solo-pushed 6 towers in one game, while everyone just fought mid. I think our yi went 25/4, or something, but he never took the mid tower. And I can remember, at the end of the game, where it said victory over the enemy nexus, I was the only guy there.

Yi then said that he carried, since he obviously had the best ratio, and I fed (since a blitz by himself wouldn't do crap in a duel)

LordGeovanniJun 30, 20161 votes

Im speaking pre this patch if you dont lose early blitz has about 3 different builds where he can duel well but typical blitz support build i see cant really duel well

spombjopJun 29, 20161 votes

Like i said, riot should create Baguette Bronze league, the tier that would be below bronze 5

GibberwattJun 29, 20161 votes

But then that would just be the new bronze five. There has to be a bottome somewhere

jaymc1130Jun 29, 20161 votes

I got news for you mate....

This happens in every elo.

Riot allows those things. Trolling, griefing, afking, scripting, boosting, botting, etc are all approved by riot. Being upset about them in game however, is a perma ban waiting to happen.

Regardless, its not the feeders and trolls that hold you back. That is only true in a small sample size. Increase the sample size and you eliminate how much of a factor luck plays in your ranking.