I just want some feedback about what you think about what a support's "role" is do you think it is to babysit your adc like the meta says or is it something different? Just thought I would pull this up about this Nunu smite support incident
The support has two meanings for this game, depends on context.
The game has 4 income sources and 5 players, one of them has to sacrifice income for the team.
But you also have champions who provide utilities for the game, which is different from the first comcept. See lulu mid for example.
The support's role in the early game is to control the flow of botlane in such a way that:
In a winning matchup, you get your ADC significantly ahead, and keep them from getting punished by their ego as much as possible.
In an even matchup, you get your ADC ahead if possible, and otherwise help set up the rest of your team to more easily get you ahead, while preventing your opponents from doing the same.
In a losing matchup, to minimize the amount of loss in both kills and cs.
In general, your job is to give your adc the opportunity to scale into the midgame.
After lane phase, your role is map control and fight control. Map control mostly means warding, warning, and predicting your opponents. Fight control depends on what kind of support you're running. It can be crowd control, peeling, tanking, damage, buffing, etc as applies to the support played.
Map control and fight control can happen during lane phase but are less pronounced.
No it's not babysitting the adc. Maybe for the first 15 min until turrets are down. But the protecting the whole team, especially the best player/most fed/most likely to carry. There is no way in hell im gonna babysit adc who sucks lol.
And setting up kills for the same lousy adc.
The supports job is in the name. Can the community solve this riddle?
As a few others have noted, the role of a "Support" is to support the team. For everyone complaining about "babysitting the adc" ask yourself this: What does the support do at minute 45? 60? A support is often seen as an "adc babysitter" because that is the BEST thing a SUPPORT can do in the first 15 minutes of the game. But once laning is done, maybe they SUPPORT the jungler or maybe they SUPPORT the Top Laner or maybe they roam and do something else useful. I main ADC and I personally have ZERO issue with the support going to mid at minute 5 if our mid sucks and needs help and I am capable of at least "holding" bot lane. A SUPPORT is a utility player that provides value where it is needed, period. If you're roaming around trying to get kills then you're not playing a SUPPORT, you are trying to play a CARRY.
What's interesting is if you think of things like the Ashe/MF or Ashe/Zyra or really any traditional ADC + mage (like Brand or Vel'koz) support, they're often predicated on a DIFFERENT "meta". We call those secondaries "supports" but its really a shift to more of a "double carry" style. It'd be interesting if ranked/draft gave the option to define a team "style" ('traditional' vs 'dual carry') so that players could play other team concepts without having arguments about not following the META.
The role of support is to make the ADC sandwiches and sweep and mop the fountain.
The job of a Support largely changes with the kind of support you are playing. For the role in general, it is to be as useful as possible with little income.
During lane phase it is to both or either protect your team and create opportunities for them. this isn't NOT just in regards to the Botlaner. this also applies to the jungler and midlaner and even Toplaner if it so happens.
Support roams are very deadly and sorely unexpected.
can people give this nunu and singed topic a fkn rest? Although due to traditional supp being kicked out of meta it is ever so hard to know what supp are meant to do. Bravo rito, you dug your own grave for letting these supp's die and now you get trolls.
