On the topic of the Akali nerfs....

yyellowish··2 votes·1,268 views

Don't get me wrong: Akali had it coming. But why gut her healing? Now with her healing gone, Akali has lost all of her health sustain and laning is so much harder... like seriously, they could've nerfed how much it healed rather than completely removing it. Or maybe im just very ass at her Akali idk lol

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MankeyMadness1 votes

Like 38% winrate. Riot couldve just buffed her E damage + R CD and passive MS duration, at the same time, but they held off on it. Just wait, Akali goes back to being a champion soon.

Still waiting on MonkeyKing Q to have base damage by the way! Literally 0 damage rank 1 :) Not playing this fuggle game or buying skins until this is fixed.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

They did it because she needed a time in the game where she's weak, and has a chance for the enemy to counter and abuse. Now her lane phase is weaker, giving her opponent time to actually fight her before she gets her first item which is usually always item 3146. With that said, maybe it was a bit overkill for her healing to be completely removed but she did need some form of weakness.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Her shroud is gutted, her E can be easily dodged and her ultimate is extremely slow burst. The only thing that has virtually low counter play is her passive and Q.

Healing was the only thing that is a remnant of old Akali and they removed her, her shroud is unrecognizable and now she is a new champion. I can't even call it a rework this point lmao.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

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Her shroud is gutted, her E can be easily dodged and her ultimate is extremely slow burst. The only thing that has virtually low counter play is her passive and Q.

Healing was the only thing that is a remnant of old Akali and they removed her, her shroud is unrecognizable and now she is a new champion. I can't even call it a rework this point lmao.

Her shroud isn't gutted, all they did when they nerfed her was make it so turrets can reveal her which should of been like that from the beginning, and increased her CD of max rank by 2 seconds. No champion should be completely invisible to the turret, especially one that had the chance to attack and then re-enter stealth again for like 6+ seconds like she did.

Her E had no changes and Ult had very little changes ever since she was reworked and it's nothing big enough to complain about it now since it was only like losing 25 base damage at max rank "oh no massive nerf there". The only real meaningful nerf she received at all since her rework was the one she got which put her in this state and that's the Shroud nerfs and Q not healing her.

For a champion that had a massively high play rate, really high win rate and was basically almost must pick/ban in LCS in probably most regions and only really had 1 semi hard nerf to drop her down to lowest win rate atm, it's actually kind of funny. Her damage wasn't nerfed at all so she can still obliterate people but now she has a clear weakness of her laning phase which can now actually be punished.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Her shroud is literally weaker than old Akali shroud. Sure I agree she shouldn't be invis under tower, but the 8.24b nerfs and older nerfs had destroyed her shroud.

I never said it was nerfed hard, the ultimate is really toxic to Akali. If you get gunblade or death dance (Which I build). Pretty much every time I have my ult I get kills, old Akali didn't have that problem since she was reliant on her Q and PASSIVE to do damage not her ult.

"Semi hard nerf". Ho ho ho, no it isn't semi hard nerf as you say, sir. She was utterly gutted and stats back me up too, check it on what ever you check stats, lolalytics and op.gg is what I check. She has damage, it's the burst that is really really bad as an assassin. The heal obliterated her, because she was reliant on it to survive laning phase, duels, skimrishes and team fights.

Triple dash + Heal = Akali. Shroud ≠ Akali. Shroud was never the identity of Akali, at least the old one. Old Akali was played by most for her heal, satisfying Q and her ultimate. Not for her shroud.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

Being honest I didn't completely hate her heal in itself, I just hated how it basically nullify bad match ups and made her laning phase a little to easy on her on poor match ups. With that said, her healing DID need to go or at least take a hit but I do agree that her lack of healing for team fights and skirmishes in the Mid/Late game is pretty huge and probably needs something to fix that.

All her other nerfs she received I've more or less agree with and personally don't think any other nerf she received outside of removing the Q heal had any real impact on her current state. As she was still doing pretty well before her changes in patch 9.3 which was obviously the turret revealing and removing Q heal.

Maybe what they should do is just add the heal back but put it on her Passive where it increases as she gains levels. That way she can still have very weak heals in her lane phase and have that weakness that can be abused by the enemy laner but by the time she starts to approach level 9+ and the Mid game and team fights start rolling around she can have a decent heal at least.

While I hated fighting her and found her really annoying to fight, I'd much rather fight her than Zed Yasuo Talon Leblanc Zoe and it's tiring to see mostly those champions being played mid. As my only real problem with Akali was invisible under turrets and the amount she healed in lane so nerfing it in lane but then having it still be decently strong in team fights is fine with me

VolatileAkali1 votes

Not gonna lie her heal in this kit especially, is toxic, but removing it was completely wrong as you disrespect the old Akali mains who are the huge majority of who play this new Akali.

Most nerfs didn't affect her, but some did. The multiple shroud nerfs since her rework and her heal really gutted her. I don't mind turret revealing going away, I can win lanes without it to be honest, but the heal removal just is Riot spitting on us.

Yeah, everyone was suggesting that, still not confirmed they will return that. Hope they do. It will give consistent heals, with low to medium heal.

Unless they buff her burst immensely, she will never be good at team fighting as other assassins or pretty much the majority of champions. She either needs quick af burst, healing comes back and/or revert 8.24b nerfs. Literally those nerfs made me die so many times just because an ADC auto attacked me once in team fights and I die.

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