Impossible to lane with Kog'Maw?

Tin Obliterates·Jun 21, 2016·1 votes·2,170 views

I have bought just a day ago, so i dont know much about him. After a few bot games i have decided to bring him into PvP, only to find that any other ranged ADC can easily poke me out of lane if i try to farm.

And it seems i can't do anything about it.

I try to use my E and turn on my W to fight back, but it usually gets me killed with the enemy ADC surviving with a bit less than half health. If i try to run away, the enemy ADC or their support will stun/slow me, and kill me while my support cant do anything about it.

What am i supposed to do as Kog'Maw if i can die so easily? Do i just farm under turret to get the items i need to be able to trade with the enemy ADC? Or do i need a specific support to help me lane easier?

9 Comments

AkerasiJun 21, 20164 votes

Kog'maw is a late game powerhouse who has a weak laning phase. So, the difficulty is on purpose, and if you're not experienced with him, can seem really harsh.
A support really good at zoning the enemy is often very helpful. I suggest someone who knows how to Zyra, Blitzcrank, or Morgana.

MoarCowbell98Jun 21, 20161 votes

as any adc without self peel and short range without their ability active you just have to get the creeps you can and allow yourself to be zoned from those that are too dangerous.

4th Chiming LambJun 21, 20161 votes

What rank are you? I'm a pretty decent Braum/Morg/Tahm and could help you out.

MunchCrunchLunchJun 21, 20161 votes

he isn't as bad as vayne or twitch trust me.

ChroudJun 21, 20161 votes

Your Masteries and Runes are very important.

1)Kog is week intell you get your first atck speed item to help out. lvl 4-6 is when its safe to exchange with other ADC's.(Also depending on who you are against.) 2)I find that the best Kog'Maw build that works for me is 5.0 Kog'Maw. 3)I run Pure Attack speed Runes to start with 41 Percent attack speed. 4)What build path are you taking?

I dont claim mine is the best but it nets me a shit ton of kills and I carrie alot on Kog'Maw. Dorans Blade>>>Berzerker Boots>>>Ruaans Hurricane>>>Witts end>>>Blade of Ruin King>>>Nashors Tooth>>>(Fill item in here) last spot is for what you need to progress at the end of the match.

Lane phase lvl 1-3 Save W for clearing minion waves only. Use E to Slow down minion waves getting closer to turret and also to Poke Enemy Sup or ADC.

lvl 3-5 I get Recurve Bow as my first back for the extra atck speed. (I also run all attack speed ruins should start with +41 percent attack speed.) Now you can trade with most ADC's now.

Hope this helps

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/65660786#matches

Kog and Fid are my main I dont claim to be a master at either but I do have 60% win rates on both champs :)

Kog also does well with any support with Strong CC

Rustling BushJun 21, 20161 votes

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Your Masteries and Runes are very important.

1)Kog is week intell you get your first atck speed item to help out. lvl 4-6 is when its safe to exchange with other ADC's.(Also depending on who you are against.) 2)I find that the best Kog'Maw build that works for me is 5.0 Kog'Maw. 3)I run Pure Attack speed Runes to start with 41 Percent attack speed. 4)What build path are you taking?

I dont claim mine is the best but it nets me a shit ton of kills and I carrie alot on Kog'Maw. Dorans Blade>>>Berzerker Boots>>>Ruaans Hurricane>>>Witts end>>>Blade of Ruin King>>>Nashors Tooth>>>(Fill item in here) last spot is for what you need to progress at the end of the match.

Lane phase lvl 1-3 Save W for clearing minion waves only. Use E to Slow down minion waves getting closer to turret and also to Poke Enemy Sup or ADC.

lvl 3-5 I get Recurve Bow as my first back for the extra atck speed. (I also run all attack speed ruins should start with +41 percent attack speed.) Now you can trade with most ADC's now.

Hope this helps

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/65660786#matches

Kog and Fid are my main I dont claim to be a master at either but I do have 60% win rates on both champs :)

Kog also does well with any support with Strong CC

where is rageblade?

ChroudJun 21, 20161 votes

I use rageblade over Nashers tooth sometimes but when the gimped it I felt that Nashers just as good now.

TheEvilQueen135Jun 21, 20161 votes

I actually play a lot of kogmaw, farming is more important than fighting back. get attack speed items (hurricane is AMAZING, rageblade(though not attk speed) is good to have too). max w and e before q. he goes well with sups like braum, morg, blitz, lux, thresh. he's really strong late game. basically play safe for the first bit unless the jungle is coming or the sup makes a good play and you have the health/mana to follow up. if the jungler comes and the sup does a killer play just go the hell in because if you die just try to explode on them and kill them/get the jungle a kill.

personally after dorans i usually co build hurricane(if i'm behind in farm) or rageblade(if i'm ahead in farm and not feeding) with the recommended boots. then the other while building vampiric scepter followed by blade of ruined king after that attack speed is always nice but sometimes you need to get other items for certain situations by that point. in general though he's probably one of the best adc's for shredding tanks and turrets

Tin ObliteratesJun 23, 20161 votes

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I actually play a lot of kogmaw, farming is more important than fighting back. get attack speed items (hurricane is AMAZING, rageblade(though not attk speed) is good to have too). max w and e before q. he goes well with sups like braum, morg, blitz, lux, thresh. he's really strong late game. basically play safe for the first bit unless the jungle is coming or the sup makes a good play and you have the health/mana to follow up. if the jungler comes and the sup does a killer play just go the hell in because if you die just try to explode on them and kill them/get the jungle a kill.

personally after dorans i usually co build hurricane(if i'm behind in farm) or rageblade(if i'm ahead in farm and not feeding) with the recommended boots. then the other while building vampiric scepter followed by blade of ruined king after that attack speed is always nice but sometimes you need to get other items for certain situations by that point. in general though he's probably one of the best adc's for shredding tanks and turrets

I have just played Kog'Maw ADC with one of my friends. He was support Ryze and we were up against Ashe and Thresh. Early game was pretty bad but when i got my first 2 items (rageblade and blade of the ruined king) i could easily 1v1. (I didnt use that alot because we were usually team fighting from that point on and if i charged in like an idiot i would end up feeding).

At the end i ended up with 15/10/12. This was my first Kog'Maw game with an actual support, so it might not be the best score.

My build went in this order: Rageblade, Blade of The Ruined king, Runnan's hurricane (this thing is op on Kog) and Mercurial Scimitar.

I didn't get my other 2 items but they would have probably been The Bloodthirster and The Berserker's Greaves.