What's the point of placements if they don,t actually make any sense lol.?

Shocky Ninja·11/4/2019, 4:28:17 AM·2 votes·3,233 views

Just finished my placements: 7-1 Win Win Win Win Win Loss Win

Silver 2 LOL ok.....

15 Comments

uNhoLeee11/4/2019, 4:40:21 AM3 votes

to make you play more. zzz; riot employs psychology.

hadnt played on the account for 4 years. went 10/0. ended up b1. lp gains were +67 or something. still pointless since i was d5 abroad last season.

MagicFlyingLlama11/4/2019, 4:46:25 AM3 votes

Considering you are completely new and have no previous game history, silver 2 is normal. You should be in iron unless you are vastly better than the average new player.

Unless you have an amazing faith in your abilities, dont play ranked yet. You will just drop like a rock and harm your MMR for a long time.

but I was S+ in most games. And i'm looking at the statistics and my scores are insanely high....

These have zero effect on anything except your ego and mastery chests.

Kai Guy11/4/2019, 4:54:31 AM3 votes

https://imgur.com/a/xqTaXVU

Edit. Clarifying the MMR gap mainly seems to only happen on good results rather then universal ones. added "strong" to post to clarify that.

"Strong" Placements set a lower "Rank" now then the MMR range your in. Its a distraction/to lower folks lucking out into high MMR. Players judge "rank" as skill cuz that's whats visable despite MMR being whats used by MM to build a game. Ego appeasement systems and also work to egg folks on and lower folks getting to luck their way into a higher tier then they reasonably should finish in.

Pulling from personal experience and experiments, If you do absolutely nothing besides go WLWL, Lp slant is enough to make it out of silver if your in gold MMR.

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=NotNotkaiguy

I took it a few steps farther. I went out of my Way to Force failed promo games Via Dodgeing which counts as a loss. I also used /remake abuse to "lose" 3 Placement games. Resulting in B1 starting MMR with S2 Match average.

I am actively looking to collect Data and find patterns. Ultimately I would like to have enough information to try and use LP Slant values as workably accurate estimations for an accounts hidden MMR.

If your down to help, what are your LP Gains? Can I please get you to screen cap your next few win and your next loss?

My assumption is your gonna be seeing close to 30 LP for a win, And get -10 for a loss. give or take 8LP as I don't have enough Data on hand from other players that's been proven Via Screen caps.

If you don't chain losses then if it takes more then 7 games for you to skip promos + divisions to S1-G3 I will be surprised.

Would love if you get back to me with the results.

Pumpedhero11/4/2019, 4:30:15 AM2 votes

its also influenced by your own display of statistics. The old MMR system of being just, Ur placed by the amount of wins in ur promo placements, was removed pretty sure, just because it was an easy tool for boosters and it was unfair to players that actually were decent and got bad promo placements.

mack911211/4/2019, 6:29:01 AM1 votes

thats pretty good

Darkdemon65311/4/2019, 5:46:52 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shocky Ninja,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m9As5IZe,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-04T04:28:17.415+0000)

Just finished my placements: 7-1 Win Win Win Win Win Loss Win

Silver 2 LOL ok.....

You have an MMR that's much higher than the equivalent for silver 2, which is why you have been in games with mid-high golds and even a couple plats. You will be gaining a lot more LP for wins than you lose for losses. I suspect this is done to help lessen the impact of getting lucky or unlucky games while still making them matter. Assuming you maintain a decent win rate, you will climb very quickly. It wouldn't surprise me if you skip the promo games into silver 1.