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@Riot Why is there no counterplay to Camille ult?

TheHypeGoku·3/30/2017, 8:44:05 AM·8 votes·4,606 views

Honest question deserving of an answer. Jarvan's ult ha alway been basically a broken mechanic in which you either have flash or you don't. Camille' ult is basically she presses R and you literally cannot do anything. Does no one else have a problem with it? I laned against her, and out traded constantly. She ults. Udyr has enough time to run past ward and come save her. After that I can't even leave turret. How is this a healthy mechanic? Would love a Riot response to explain to me why this is okay?

EDIT #2: I never said that she was overall broken or OP. I'm saying the mechanic of her ult take away any counterplay. Not getting ulted is not counterplay. What exactly do you do when she does ult and you want to get away? You literally have no choice. That's it. You're stuck there for 4 seconds and you have to suck it up because she jumped out and pressed R.

EDIT: I love the downvotes and not a single person could explain any counterplay to her ult lmfao...

54 Comments

ZephyrDrake3/30/2017, 12:17:42 PM5 votes

ah the classic "RITO I CAN'T DODGE IT/100% PREVENT IT SO THERE'S NO COUNTERPLAY!" logic

Kouhey3/30/2017, 8:51:39 AM5 votes

You can do anything besides getting out of it, squishy carries should be peeled if they are trapped, if you are caught out of position on the other hand, then you are punished for doing so against a Camille. It's not like you are rooted for 4 seconds, in that case why don't you just complain about amumu ult?

Waffletimewarp3/30/2017, 1:48:23 PM3 votes

This is why I like Singed. Like- "Nononono bitch, we fight on MY terms."

Leaf on Bush3/30/2017, 9:11:05 AM2 votes

Knock her out of it? That's pretty decent counterplay aside from, surviving while inside or outright killing her.

The Sword Saint3/30/2017, 2:29:09 PM2 votes

J4 ult is countered by being able to out duel him or by having any sort of gapcloser that you didn't blow before getting j4 ulted. Camille ult is countered by being able to out duel her or by forcing her to leave the ring.

Aptest3/30/2017, 8:03:03 PM2 votes

the reason for Camille's ult being the way it is, is that there are a lot of champions nowadays with "I don't want to get ganked today" as part of their kit.

The over-reaching purpose is to make sure you can be ganked even if there's 100 dashes in your kit, and make sure you cant shut down other player's ability to make plays on you (=agency) by virtue of having "If i don't blow my escape to darm, im always going to be able to outplay the gank" on your champion.

Maddmazz3/30/2017, 3:47:42 PM1 votes

Killing her is the ultimate counter play. She has been nerfed a bunch and has a fairly normal low win rate. There are plenty of champs that can set up great ganks.

Just because you got caught and double teamed doesn't mean her ult is a major problem.

It can be annoying but later mid/late game it's no problem at all.