Ap items need to be nerf hammered to FUCK

Whišper·Nov 3, 2018·9 votes·3,219 views

AP items are insanely broken, they give STUPID amounts of ap and then give you health,cd and mana plz riot fucking nerf items like rod of ages which allows people who arent suppose to scale for a reason SCALE also nerf rabadons since i was in a game as talon against ahri, now she built full ap, she noticed she was being killed by me but i only ever escaped on about 300 hp so guess what she did, she only went ahead and build a fucking ga and STILL had 500 ap and about 30 percent magic pen and 40 percent cdr i do not know how anyone in their right mind can call this balanced plz riot for the love of god FUCKING NERF AP ITEMS

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HP CrookshanksNov 3, 20188 votes

item 3147 item 3155 item 3142 item 3111
"APs are broken!" [sg-miss-fortune]

Dark RoyaltyNov 3, 20182 votes

How are merc treads op? Literally everyone is buying tabi

AirKingNeoNov 3, 20182 votes

hexdrinker falls off like a rock

JeaneGreeneNov 3, 20186 votes

Meanwhile the point and click “R-E-AA-Ignite” Assassin known as Zed builds Duskblade, Youmu’s, Edge of Night and Boots for cheap and proceeds to delete anyone who comes in his R range. Because AP are op!

Eat More KittensNov 3, 20181 votes

yea but i think the problem is the scaling on ap champs, mainly just because of rabadons

SwiftKitten88Nov 4, 20181 votes

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AirKingNeoNov 4, 20182 votes

why should they buff every AP item but deathcap which in turns is a net buff when AP champions are already really strong?

AirKingNeoNov 3, 20182 votes

Zed isn't competitively picked though. Mages are.

SithesisLordNov 3, 20182 votes

And why are mages being picked competitively somehow makes them or their items overpowered?

Hint: It doesn´t. There´s only one problematic AP item, and it's Lost Chapter. Every other AP item is fine.

AirKingNeoNov 3, 20182 votes

taking true damage from Sorcs + Morello isn't fine.

JeaneGreeneNov 4, 20182 votes

Taking true damage from duskblade and Youmus isn’t fine

AirKingNeoNov 4, 20181 votes

You don't, otherwise, we'd seen assassins competitively, but we don't.

Cheetah NidaleeNov 4, 20182 votes

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You don't, otherwise, we'd seen assassins competitively, but we don't.

https://watch.na.lolesports.com/vods/worlds/world_championship_2018

AirKingNeoNov 4, 20181 votes

Wow, one team picked him and he went 1-4.

Anything else?

LukaTDSJun 2, 20191 votes

zed is supposed to do that, besides it''s only zed; ALL MAGES AND ALL AP AND MAGE ITEMS ARE OVERBUFFED. any champion that switches to ap is automaticly stornger

AirKingNeoNov 3, 20182 votes

Sorc Boots, Morello, and Void Staff are stupid right now.

Bears Dont CareNov 3, 20182 votes

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Sorc Boots, Morello, and Void Staff are stupid right now.

They arent. Void staff was increased to compensate for increased mr across the board. Morello took the magic pen frn liandry. Sorc boots were also increased duento higher MR values.

AirKingNeoNov 3, 20181 votes

Ok? You state why the items were changed, but you didn't disprove that they're overpowered.

Bears Dont CareNov 6, 20182 votes

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Ok? You state why the items were changed, but you didn't disprove that they're overpowered.

It insinuates they are not overpowered. In fact, you need a.vpid staff to counter what a null magic mantle provides as you would need both sorc boots and morellos to counter it. Over 2k gold to counter a 450 gold item.

AirKingNeoNov 6, 20181 votes

It insinuates they are not overpowered.

Cool. That's you stated 'they aren't overpowered' and not 'here's why'.

You need to spent more in gold to counter armor.

Bears Dont CareNov 7, 20181 votes

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Cool. That's you stated 'they aren't overpowered' and not 'here's why'.

We do not need to state everything explicitly in a discussion.

You need to spent more in gold to counter armor.

Yes and that isperfectly acceptable. MR deals with damage from abilities almost exclusively. There is more armor available because AD affects both abilities AND auto attacks. As such, armor needs to counter both burst and sustained rather than just one form of damage.

Hence why total amount of armor available is greater than total MR available.

AirKingNeoNov 7, 20181 votes

We do not need to state everything explicitly in a discussion.

Yes, you do in a discussion about AP items being overpowered.

MR deals with damage from abilities almost exclusively.

Magic damage is stronger than physical damage because there's less counter to it and people have more armor than MR in base stats. Magic damage is intentionally supposed to be stronger than physical.

Bears Dont CareNov 7, 20181 votes

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Yes, you do in a discussion about AP items being overpowered.

If someone demonstrates a point which is directly oppositional to yours, then no, they do not

Magic damage is stronger than physical damage because there's less counter to it and people have more armor than MR in base stats. Magic damage is intentionally supposed to be stronger than physical.

This is an inaccurate statement. Magic damage has higher BURST potential, but its overall DPS is lower than physical damage. You can test this on any dummy. The purpose of MR and armor is different, hence why the values and penetration values are different.

AirKingNeoNov 7, 20181 votes

If someone demonstrates a point which is directly oppositional to yours, then no, they do not

??? If someone is in opposition of you, then use EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT.

Magic damage has higher BURST potential, but its overall DPS is lower than physical damage. You can test this on any dummy.

Magic DPS champions have the inherit advantage of dealing magic damage...

Bears Dont CareNov 8, 20181 votes

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??? If someone is in opposition of you, then use EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT.

Is this real life?

You: Complains explicit statement of opposition was not made Me: points out it is unnecessary You: Says evidence wasn't borught up Me: brought it up in his first post

Seriously, how did you go from whining about explicit statements on argumental positioning to an argument of no evidence being presented? Its called math, and it doesn't favor you.

Magic DPS champions have the inherit advantage of dealing magic damage...

Thanks for stating the obvious captain obvious.

Lovelle IINov 3, 20182 votes

According to some, AD itemization is still superior since it also boosts auto-attack damage. Personally, I feel AP itemization is flexible enough to make up for that.