Sejuani next update

Grimoire Reaper·8/5/2014, 8:07:43 PM·3 votes·908 views

Will there be any tweaks for this champ? Currently her cooldowns, mana costs, and damage are all in the wrong places. Why haven't any changes been made? It's as if there is worry that the champion will actually be able to beat other champions.... Example of small changes would be cooldown reduction on Q if it hits or giving more range on W.

Right now as she plays, she has to get close to give damage, but then, gives very low damage, never trade worthy, mana depleted, high cooldowns. Sejuani clearly does not fit in the "fighter" category as she stands. Her jungle clear time is also poor and is "outjungled", bullied by many champions. She has no strengths in the jungle compare to other jungle champions by comparison.

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Knight SoIaire 8/5/2014, 10:22:11 PM2 votes

ap seju op buy dfg
toss dfg+ult+e and enjoy your free kill follow up with q for tankier foes

srsly she can delete ppl

Tnki8/5/2014, 9:30:02 PM1 votes

Now, I agree that her clear time isn't optimal and that she can be counterjungled quite easily, I don't think her damage output is as bad as everyone says it is. She is my favorite champion and I've definitely played her more than any other in the game. If you recall, after her rework, her damage actually got a slight nerf, and while part of me was sad that it happened, I can totally see why. It was not uncommon for me to actually have the most kills and most damage by games end, before her nerf. I was absolutely steamrolling if I could get even a tiny lead.

I wouldn't disagree that her AP needs better scaling, but that's so as to give her more customization in her build paths. To be honest, I build very, very little AP when I play her and I can still do pretty good damage come mid-late game. Putting an Icebourne Gauntlet helps her damage immensely, and it also helps her mana problems. So many people think of her as a pure health tank, but that's actually a bad way to build her. The only real health item that I usually put on her is a Sunfire Cape. Besides that, Spirit Visage is the next largest health addition. Since BOTRK is so popular right now, putting any more health on her is just asking to die quickly.

If they buffed her cooldowns or mana pool/regen, then her damage would actually end up being nerfed. Her "Q" at max rank will do more than 12% of their max health... That's why her "Q" is so damn expensive. If you build her health/AP then even her "W" will be able to do some serious damage. That's not even counting whether you have a Sheen Proc on it.

Once again, I agree that her clear time and how easily she can be counterjungled is a bit of an issue, but her damage (vs. Champs anyway) isn't that bad. You just need to know how to build her.

MyxBiersack8/5/2014, 10:16:39 PM1 votes

TOTALLY AGREE Sejuani I MAIN HER AS JUNGLER NOW AND I BUILD FULL TANK WITH 6K HEALTH BUT IF MY TEAM IS BAD I CAN'T DO NOTHING MORE THAN TANK IN TEAMFIGHT , SHE NEED LESS CD and higher range

Grimoire Reaper8/6/2014, 7:53:44 AM1 votes

Sej has burst damage, but if she doesn't kill, she gets outraded or dies. Q is still too mana expensive. 4-12% +40%AP is at max level and nobody upgrades q first. [cough jayce 8-20% max hp dmg + 100% bonus ad]. One skill rotation and your mana is depleted. The least they could do is give her more range on her w.

And her damage is pretty weak there is no doubt about it (take cd into consideration). The numbers say it all. Compare sej to amumu or gragas for example. I think these are possibly the best comparisons.

But anyways, what i would ATLEAST like to see is increased range on her W. 425-450 would be "decent". Heck why not turn it into a skill shot and increase the range a bit further. Widen the skill gap between sej players, make some plays with that skillshot. Instead of relying on a 100 cooldown ult all the time. If you miss....goodluck.

Her only escape is her only gap closer, which she absolutely has to get close to do anything. And that escape has a very long cooldown.

Its time to invest in a new mace for Sej.

GundayMonday8/7/2014, 1:40:44 AM1 votes

Hi, Plat I Sejuani main here. She's fine. She doesn't need any changes. I think you might be playing her wrong if you're having trouble winning games. Happy to watch one of your games and give some feedback. Just add me in game and let me know!

Grimoire Reaper8/8/2014, 11:31:59 PM1 votes

Sounds way to reliant on items to me...

Flying Buntcake8/5/2014, 8:33:08 PM1 votes

Sej needs so much ap for her a bilities to do noticable damage, maybe they could tweak her scaling?

Bencorgi10/9/2014, 3:07:33 AM1 votes

Why not just get rid of mana? It would solve some of her problems without making her OP. She still would have the weak laning phase. She still wouldn't be able to duel anyone. It would just make her better and not have to hoard blue and get crippled by blue invades.