I usually never post but i think that this is important enough to some people that maybe someone will hear me. Though the snowball is cool and opens up some awesome opportunities it also has ruined the aram experience to a point, As being a mainly aram player it has thrown the balance way off and now any melee/tank just steamrolls, not cool. Can we not seperate the lobbys of ones with snowball and ones without or something.
Zea10t10 votesThis summoners completely ruins ARAM though. There are several major things that are causing it to ruin the game mode.
First, the summoner has a 20 second cool down. The other main summoners that players choose in ARAM are typically Heal and Flash. Heal has a 240 second cool down and flash has a 300 second cool down. Players that choose snow ball can cast their summoner ability 12 times more often than players with heal, not to mention the cool down is reduced if they reactivate the ability, which brings me to the next point.
This ability does TRUE damage. 20 + (10 x Champion level) compared to ignite's 50 + (20 x Champion level). So It does half the damage with less than 1/10 of the cool down of ignite. Its a skill shot you say? With entire teams taking this ability, it is impossible to dodge them all and the ability out ranges almost every ability in the game (54% increase in range over a fully charged Varus Q). Lets take another look at that back line while we are talking about Varus. At max level he has 1932 max hp (without any items, runes, or masteries). Most players build Marksman champions glass cannon (no defensive items), most players dont take defensive runes, and at most a player might grab the additional 36 + 3% max hp from masteries. Taking all of this into account, he would come out around 2027 hp. If he gets hit by 5 snow balls, he is at less than half hp. This is one of the longest range champions in the game getting taken out by something 900 units out of his range, but this isn't even the most broken thing about the ability.
Have you ever had a game where you miss point click abilities because Yi uses his Alpha Strike or Fiora Ults? Well this ability brings those nightmares back to life. Champions aren't able to be targeted while dashing to their marked target. What does this mean? When you Ult with Syndra or use any point and click ability in the game that has a travel time, it can be dodged by someone simply reactivating their ability, creating a huge amount of outplay for these previous well balanced champions.
Lastly, this ability gives vision. In a game mode where wards don't exist, every champion without a scout ability is forced to face check bushes. This ability almost completely negates the possibility of making bush plays or "back dooring" on a champion by waiting for the enemy team to walk by a bush that the enemy team didn't feel necessary to face-check.
Now that we know how broken this ability is, how is it impacting the game? First, everybody and their brother is using this ability. This includes Marksman champions and other champions that have no reason dashing into the enemy lines. Why? Because its Overpowered. Specific champions are also benefiting in ways that weren't intended to happen from this ability. Zed can put a shadow in safety, dash to an enemy and escape by switching with his shadow. No consequences and free damage. Lissandra, the shotgun mage can also exploit her teleport abilities with mark, something her kit wasn't designed for. Heimerdinger is having his turrets destroyed by 2-3 snowballs. Most of Heimerdinger's power comes from creating a safe place and destroying enemies when they enter, but only being able to put a turret up every 15 seconds (Rank 5 25% Cool Down Reduction) an enemy team with 5 snowballs can easily destroy his turrets as fast as he can build them.
To fix the problem of this ability it needs to be a closer resemblance to the ability it stems from: Lee Sin's Q Sonic Wave/Resonating Strike. Short range and the champion is able to be targeted while dashing. Aside from becoming more like Lee Sin's ability in these ways, the damage needs to be removed and the cool down can be modified as needed for balance.
True Blue Indigo6 votesI too only play ARAM and completely refuse to play the game until this thing is removed or drastically fixed. Please remove this spell.
Judaho5 votessnowball has ruined aram...
Comet5o45 votesI will most likely stop playing league due to the snowball. I mainly play the aram mode. I would suggest that the snowball be removed as a summoner but be attached to an aram specific item, a support item, for tanks and support players to use the items "active" (which is the snowball). Not sure what a good cd would be, but maybe it could be like the Guardian's horn, where the cd is reduced by 1 second with each enemy spell used. Also, with this new snowball feature Guardian's horn is obsolete now.
bigusa4 votesThis is the best invention ever.!!!! I played ARAM way to much, now that snow balls are here, and Aram sucks. I can actually quit this game and do something more productive in life. Back to the gym to lose this gut LOL gave me.
Aechidna4 votesI also agree. The snowball thing is the most stupid, unbalanced addition to this mode. It's called all RANDOM all mid for a reason. That means you get a champ and you have to be happy with it. If that tank so happens to have a gap closer, great, if not, sucks to be you, deal and play your best. But with the snowballs EVERYONE has a gap closer and some champs (Fizz, Heca, J4, WuKong, the list goes on) simply DON'T need it and it makes them stupidly OP if you happen to get the random squishy AD carry that may or may not have a dash to escape but is then left steamrolled after 4 ppl with snowballs and extra gap closers come flying at you. This mode is supposed to be "hey hurry up and get the tower before they're all back" not "forget it, let's just all die to snowball jumps because we don't even have time to kill this tower with 30 sec death timers." It needs to get gone. It's an obnoxious, game ruining addition that makes this mode frustrating and un-fun.
Dantaesh4 votesThe Snowball summoners spell really is the worst. Adding it was a half-baked effort to put a gimmicky trick into ARAM. It hasn't been balanced, and it has taken over the game. Now the entire game has been changed into dodging snowballs instead of what it was before, a chance to play with and a against a variety of champs. It was fun for like 10 seconds when it was part of the Poro King game. I didn't think RIOT did things like this without so clearly not thinking it through AT ALL.
kowgarnett4 votesI just want to pop this thread up because I feel like sick about the annoying snowball in aram and I want to know if there are people feeling the same like me. To be honest, I think "shorter range and longer cd time" is not enough at all. That skill is so penetrable and can not be countered by any means other than dodging. And to my observation, its range is even longer and wider (might be not wider, but must be longer) than Nid's spear. I would suggest some nerf like the dash could be stopped by skills, and whoever cast it has a debuff like being slowed for a few seconds if it is still a summoner skill.
Xander Pain3 votesThat would be Perfect! I can not play with the snowballs in the game. Shorting the range, or drastically increasing the cool down are some other options. I would love to see it go away all together. I'm seriously considering uninstalling the game because I ONLY play arams. Very upset about this, as this was my girlfriend and my goto game.
jamaz172 votesMyself and my friends have agreed that we won't spend another minute or a dollar on this game until snowballs are nerf'd or gone ... undoes what justice the game had, such a stupid notion from the developers is shocking .. peace out LOL
jmsbc2 votesI came to the forum just to make this post... please remove or strongly nerf the snowball. The ability to bush check every 20 seconds for a single player (let alone the whole team) makes the bush useless in ARAM. That means for example nunu ult from bush is useless now as one example.
Leti the Yeti1 votesyeah.. the endless pokes in aram wasnt very fun either people were just throwing stuff across the the map or in worse cases, the poor sucker who rolled a melee runs in circles as he contributes nothing against the oppressive range
Berry Állen1 votesIt sure sucks that everyone has a chance now if they get a melee champ against a poke team. Just awful
thuggybear11 votesMelee champs have always had a chance in ARAM, especially end game. Some champs are better than others for sure, but you take a team with a tank or two against all squishy ranged and its like a train running over bunnies.
I am very against this snowball spell. It really ruins what is a run game mode. I only play ARAM. Since the introduction of snowballs I don't play LoL at all anymore because this has ruined ARAM for me.
Have they put a date on when this terrible feature will end, and if it won't end, can we at least have a seperate mode where it is disabled? Bring back the ARAM we know and love! (I know this will be blasted by people saying aram is dumb etc, not interested in the flame, many of us enjoy ARAM, deal with it).
Berry Állen1 votesHave they put a date on when this terrible feature will end, and if it won't end, can we at least have a seperate mode where it is disabled? Bring back the ARAM we know and love! (I know this will be blasted by people saying aram is dumb etc, not interested in the flame, many of us enjoy ARAM, deal with it).
I love ARAM, I play it so much more than SR and i like this spell, just give it cd and shorter range, we're done, over it. If you dont like it don't use it and just dodge it. If one tiny little snowball ruined your day because you just can't deal with it and are unable to fight back just surrender.
ChesterTurtle2 votesI love ARAM, I play it so much more than SR and i like this spell, just give it cd and shorter range, we're done, over it. If you dont like it don't use it and just dodge it. If one tiny little snowball ruined your day because you just can't deal with it and are unable to fight back just surrender.
I agree. I don't mind snow ball as on option it just needs a longer cooldown and perhaps BANS would be helpful so kat just doesn't steamroll every game
Drukyul1 votes200 true damage ain't bad to hit a tank with every 20 seconds.
Duck Hunt Pro1 votesI know this is an old post, but I'd like to say that even with the nerfs ARAM has still lost a lot of its charm. As much fun as it is playing as Fizz, Alistar, or Kat, etc and wrecking fools, it just detracts from the game. Most matches consist of almost everyone in the game having snowball, spending half their time lobbing them back and forth until enough connect on either side. I would like it removed but if that's not possible maybe make it block-able or targets vulnerable while dashing? Or have a cap on how many people on the team may take it? Even having it only able to hit champions would be an improvement.
People go on like "its just one slow snowball, dodge it!" But its not just one, its usually 5 and minions don't dodge. Sure its easy enough to dodge when your sitting in the back, but it is almost impossible to see a little white puff ball during a team fight on a SNOW covered map. At least during bilgewater it was orange and quite visible.
This did not "balance" ARAM, it just changed the meta and tipped the scales WAY in the other direction.
