top lane is messier than my room
rito if you wanna make ur game playable then 
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nerf these retarted champs please
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Pyrosan2 votes already gutted on PBE
is not an issue
exists so tanks don't go out of control
Eh, sort of, kind of? He's been tuned back enough I think but maybe a little more couldn't hurt
Critmaster Garen1 votesi think you meant.
Pyrosan1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lwOVb7QF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-05T00:56:25.262+0000)
i think you meant.
has been consistently nerfed ever since they buffed her
Already gutted next patch
is an issue but they've made Renekton a hard counter for her now so she should be wrangled in a little more
Critmaster Garen1 votes
when? not this patch.
they massively buffed her base stats once, then followed up with another buff, and she became cancer in top lane again.
they didnt do anything significant about it since. 1 second of unempowered movement speed duration less is literally the only nerf she received since, and it doesnt seem to do shit to her top lane presence.
V8.14
Stats Base mana regeneration increased to 11.5 from 8.5. Mana regeneration growth reduced to 0.5 from 0.8. Base armor increased to 26 from 20.384.
V8.21
Focused Resolve Root duration increased to 1.4 / 1.55 / 1.7 / 1.85 / 2 seconds from 1 / 1.25 / 1.5 / 1.75 / 2.
V9.12
Inner Flame Slow strength increased to 35% from 25%. Inspire Mana cost reduced to 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80. Bonus movement speed duration increased to 2.5 seconds from 1.5.
V9.13
Inspire Bonus movement speed duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2.5. Empowered version is still 2.5 seconds.
this is her recent patch history. this one tiny nerf was multiple times in a row?
Pyrosan1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lwOVb7QF,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T01:31:29.168+0000)
when? not this patch.
they massively buffed her base stats once, then followed up with another buff, and she became cancer in top lane again.
they didnt do anything significant about it since. 1 second of unempowered movement speed duration doesnt seem to do shit to her top lane presence.
V9.13 Inspire Inspire Bonus movement speed duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2.5. Empowered version is still 2.5 seconds. V9.12 Inner Flame Inner Flame Slow strength increased to 35% from 25%. Inspire Inspire Mana cost reduced to 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80. Bonus movement speed duration increased to 2.5 seconds from 1.5.
They reverted most of the buffs she was given, Karma isn't an issue in top lane she's just annoying to play against lol Not to mention Karma top is rarely ever picked
Edit; They're giving her truesight on her W lol I really do hate Karma but I don't think she's a problem top-laner, just a problem in general
Critmaster Garen1 votesV9.13 Inspire Inspire Bonus movement speed duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2.5. Empowered version is still 2.5 seconds. V9.12 Inner Flame Inner Flame Slow strength increased to 35% from 25%. Inspire Inspire Mana cost reduced to 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80. Bonus movement speed duration increased to 2.5 seconds from 1.5.
They reverted most of the buffs she was given, Karma isn't an issue in top lane she's just annoying to play against lol Not to mention Karma top is rarely ever picked
5% pick rate isnt rare. infact, that makes her a common pick on top lane.
not extraordinary, but still common.
the buffs to her base stats were relevant aswell.
Pyrosan1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lwOVb7QF,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-05T01:40:50.028+0000)
5% pick rate isnt rare. infact, that makes her a common pick on top lane.
not extraordinary, but still common.
the buffs to her base stats were relevant aswell.
Where are you reading the stats?
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lwOVb7QF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-05T00:56:25.262+0000)
i think you meant.
Funny. Karma is only a problem when she’s in toplane. But adcs and supports dealing with her ass were just crying. :/
preternatural1 votesdarius and aatrox i can deal with tbh. kench when he's been unbenched is eh...i seen it already, this aint my first kenchcoaster so not all that surprised, he was doing it already anyway but people act like he wasn't now so whatever i just assumed he was working as intended and adapted. illaoi i permaban not because i can't lane against her but because i cba to lane against her and dodge hentai tentacles coming for me. it's enough that i probably have to see yasuo and despite all his issues he's not worth banning because the bad ones are bad, but illaoi? i'll ban her on account of autofilled junglers dying in dumb ways when trying to gank her. this became my policy start of this season when darius was nerfed to a fair state and he wasn't worth banning anymore but illaoi's would get fed on my junglers when i had resided to afk farm the lane. well never again fool me once rito h4h4h4h4, i don't even care what you did with illaoi in the patch notes, she'll stay banned by me, thanks i will manage all the other aids that enters top lane because i was given irelia as a tool.
sentosa1 votesI agree with kench; he's been broken for 2+ patches without any substantial nerfs. Locking in Kench in the top lane is almost always a guaranteed win.
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