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/remake Is Fucking Bullshit

FinalFlames··1 votes·688 views

So twice in one day now I'm playing ranked as jg and my team goes for an early invade and scores at least a kill or two, along with their buff. Promising lead right? THEN these pieces of garbage get to remake because their top lane has been sitting at base for at least 90 seconds. One time he was actual not connected and the other he was just sitting there. Both times top lane would haven made 0 difference in the invade and both times we had a huge early game lead.

Then we get remade and as the winning team we get NOTHING. This is absolute bullshit. First off, the winning team should get something just for being in the match and going through the process. After all, the losing team is getting a HUGE gift by not taking a loss and dropping elo. Even if its just half the rewards, they deserve something. And if ANY kill happens before the 3 minute mark, remakes should be disabled. Thats your own fault for going out of position when you don't know where one of your teammates is.

Also, the current system is so open to abuse. you just have to be afk for at least 90 seconds for the first 3 minutes of game. So you just have your top laner get in, buy his starting items, and sit at base. you go for the risky engage and it doesn't matter if you live or die. you live, you get a huge advantage and top goes to lane (by TP if necessary). You die, you vote to remake before the 3 minute mark and then don't report your teammate! They aren't necessarily flagged as AFK so leaverbuster doesn't pick them up.

And theres no real way to abuse having the enemy team win. You don't get to pick who youre matched with, so theres no way you can guarantee you get into a lobby vs people you know and then intentionally /remake. Even if someone did miraculiously find a way to abuse it, they would get reported by their teammates/enemies so often that they would get banned within a few days. It just wouldn't be feasible to cheat. The time it would take to level an account to 30 and then get it to around the same mmr as the champ youre trying to boost...its just not going to happen.

Rito needs to fix this ASAP. Its the very beginning of the season and its already happened to me personally twice. Its going to end up costing a lot of time and elo if this keeps up.

8 Comments

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Then we get remade and as the winning team

You didn't win anything, you got an early lead on a team that was missing players. You're asking for an unfair win.

FinalFlames1 votes

Its not an unfair win. First off, it wasn't a teamfight. It was an invade. the whole point of an invade is to surprise your opponent and catch them out solo so they DON'T have their team to back them up. Top lane would not have been there regardless.

Also, it doesn't matter if its fair or not. Everyone joined the game and went through champ select. You put a solid 5-8 minutes into this already. The losing team is getting a HUGE gift by not losing any elo. As the winning team, you get nothing. Thats bullshit. If remake didn't exist, you would still have to fight the 4v5 and there would still be a winner and a loser. If someone ragequits you still have to play the game. if someone trolls, you still have to play the game. And theres still a winner and a loser both times.

But thats why I'm OK with the CONCEPT of remakes. Because as the team getting trolled/afk'd you shouldn't be penalized for someone else ruining the game. But by not giving the winning team anything at all, you are essentially penalizing THEM for someone trolling! Its like dodging too many que's and getting a 10 minute wait except way more frustrating. The outcome is literally something riot uses as a punishment. Thats not cool with me.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

So you're saying you should be awarded for winning a team of 5 against 4 people?

Really man? That's just straight up bullying.

B00B001 votes

once you buy items you can't remake.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

That's not how it works. A /remake is allowed when a player has been flagged as disconnected/afk for at least 90 seconds of the first 3 minutes. If the player was gone for that long it will be triggered whether he came back or not, even if he buys items or goes and gets a kill. A death on the remake team's side before he's flagged also disables it.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/208754686--Remake-FAQ

B00B001 votes

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That's not how it works. A /remake is allowed when a player has been flagged as disconnected/afk for at least 90 seconds of the first 3 minutes. If the player was gone for that long it will be triggered whether he came back or not, even if he buys items or goes and gets a kill. A death on the remake team's side before he's flagged also disables it.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/208754686--Remake-FAQ

mm i thought, ok fair play.

i have had instances though where a player buys his items and then gets DC'd until 3mins, but remake is unavailable?

FinalFlames1 votes

thats not true. The only thing that stops a remake is first blood. You can go in, buy items, and have your team die and still remake so long as you get flagged afk before the 90 sec mark.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

No such rule. If the guy has been sitting at base 90 seconds before the 3 minute mark, then remake is available.

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