KAYN MODE NERF OR BUFF????????

Isedelica·Jul 27, 2017·1 votes·583 views

so i decided to take a test run on KAYNS modes Rhasst and of course will just call him blue mode, and I did the math on his damage in both forms

BLUE MODE - R - DOES 1300 DAMAGE Q - DOES 1256 DAMAGE W - DOES 1222 DAMAGE

RED MODE - R - DOES 2878 DAMAGE Q - DOES 2808 DAMAGE W - DOES 895 DAMAGE

so either buff the Assassin
or give it better utility then the Rhasst mode
or nerf Rhasst

OPINIONS

my opinion nerf Rhasst a little,
buff blue mode a little and give blue the knock up since it does less damage in the first place
give the blue mode an E proc magic damage after he finishes coming out of the wall just add like 100 or 150 magic damage on hit next auto
INCREASE his ult damage in blue form A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! it should not be that weak it should at least be hitting for 2000 minimum

if anyone has something else to put in that would be a good idea please post

7 Comments

GankedByWindowsJul 27, 20172 votes

You got these numbers...how? You need to provide the calculations too.

UnboundHadesJul 27, 20173 votes

He got them from the practice dummy I'm guessing since darkin damage is high af

IsedelicaJul 27, 20171 votes

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He got them from the practice dummy I'm guessing since darkin damage is high af

yes i did get it from the practice dummy tested builds and damage and put thought into what would be the best for kayn but even If i was to add nothing on both sides the damage out put would be too much for Rhasst side

he either needs a nerf or blue needs a buff

Void NargacugaJul 27, 20172 votes

Rhaast deals % health damage with Q and R. It makes sense why it's so high since practice dummies have absurd amount of health.

IsedelicaJul 27, 20171 votes

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Rhaast deals % health damage with Q and R. It makes sense why it's so high since practice dummies have absurd amount of health.

no its way to much no matter what

whats the point of having 2 forms if Rhasst is way better

90% of the people will use Rhasst

there needs to be a balance in damage and utility im telling you give assassin the knock up and Rhast the slow his heals are already strong once he scales up

and nerf Rhasst a little

and buff assassin

Void NargacugaJul 27, 20171 votes

What you don't get is that Rhaast is better suited for fighting beefier enemies. While SA Kayn is better suited for killing squishy Champions.

Rhaast Reaping Slash changes: Both instances of Reaping Slash's damage are modified to 50% AD (+ 5% (+ 4% per 100 bonus AD) of target's maximum health) physical damage, capped against monsters.

Rhaast Umbral Trespass changes: Umbral Trespass damage is modified to deal 10% (+ 13% per 100 bonus AD) of target's maximum health physical damage, and heals him for 70% of the pre-mitigation damage.

Since the Practice Dummy has a shit ton of health it will seem like he deals a shit ton of damage. But if either ability is used against a squishy champion, like for example Ashe , when transformed as Rhaast it will deal way less damage due to how the ability damage is calculated.

Shadow Kayn just recently got a 40% bonus AD increase buff to Umbral Trespass damage (this doesn't effect Rhaast due to what the transformation does to Ult damage calculations for Rhaast). Along with bugfixs to item 3147 interacting correctly with ult and passive.

As a side note Blade's Reach for SA Kayn: Blade's Reach's range is increased by 200, deals an additional 10% bonus AD damage and the slow decays over 2 seconds. Additionally, Kayn conjures a living shadow at the casting position to perform Blade's Reach in his stead, allowing Kayn to perform other actions.

While Raast only gets a 1 second knock up added to Blade's Reach and that's it.

IsedelicaJul 27, 20171 votes

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What you don't get is that Rhaast is better suited for fighting beefier enemies. While SA Kayn is better suited for killing squishy Champions.

Rhaast Reaping Slash changes: Both instances of Reaping Slash's damage are modified to 50% AD (+ 5% (+ 4% per 100 bonus AD) of target's maximum health) physical damage, capped against monsters.

Rhaast Umbral Trespass changes: Umbral Trespass damage is modified to deal 10% (+ 13% per 100 bonus AD) of target's maximum health physical damage, and heals him for 70% of the pre-mitigation damage.

Since the Practice Dummy has a shit ton of health it will seem like he deals a shit ton of damage. But if either ability is used against a squishy champion, like for example , when transformed as Rhaast it will deal way less damage due to how the ability damage is calculated.

Shadow Kayn just recently got a 40% bonus AD increase buff to Umbral Trespass damage (this doesn't effect Rhaast due to what the transformation does to Ult damage calculations for Rhaast). Along with bugfixs to interacting correctly with ult and passive.

As a side note Blade's Reach for SA Kayn: Blade's Reach's range is increased by 200, deals an additional 10% bonus AD damage and the slow decays over 2 seconds. Additionally, Kayn conjures a living shadow at the casting position to perform Blade's Reach in his stead, allowing Kayn to perform other actions.

While Raast only gets a 1 second knock up added to Blade's Reach and that's it.

i understand the concept but Rhasst is still to strong and i burst squishies as Rhasst and im freaking able to 1 v 1 a fiora in mid to late game when she killed me twice in lane

Rhasst needs a nerf and the blue needs a buff thats just the truth it doesnt have to be big nerf but scale it down a bit, and increase assassin, cause even with the health percent damage I should not be doing 2800 damage,

while in blue only hitting for 1200 to 1300 thats 1500 more damage THATS INSANE!!!!! its stupid cause I have not seen a single assassin kayn since I started

everyone is using Rhasst

Assassin is pointless to play at the moment until its fixed