@Meddler Jhin Buffs PBE

Gear5Luffy·1/30/2018, 4:49:31 PM·3 votes·1,082 views

Hi Meddler if you see this post you do not have to respond but please take into consideration what i think of Jhins current state and where he should be, Short story: Jhin peaked my curiosity since his teasers and fell in love with his kit and character, before him i would only play arams and normals just for the fun of the game but playing the champ made me feel competitive as i was getting better at him so i went into ranked and have been playing him ever since. In my opinion Jhin struggles a lot mid game when other adc hit the IE/Zeal item power spike and the buffs to the ultimate is not the way to go dmg wise and utility wise the Curtain Call is perfect you have to carefully calculate when to open it by positioning and the rest of the enemy team health bar and position, of course has other uses just to slow down fleeing enemies to help out your team.

What he needs is something to do better in lane against the lifesteal adc with fleet footwork and another thing would be to emphasize his control freak side and planing into his work basically means a little work on his trap E and his interaction with W i am suggesting Fourchanges Change: 1)Q: if the bouncing grande kills all target give heal Jhin for a certain amount 2)Q give him movement speed from his passive if it hits 2 or more champs 3)E and W : at max range of W the mines can explode faster even if you do not snare the enemy 4) Give him longer snare at max range when enemies step in traps and adding a bit of base dmg to early levels of E . Jhin Jhin Jhin Jhin

15 Comments

Rexxiee1/30/2018, 4:50:36 PM3 votes

Yeah, lets buff one of the highest pick rate adcs across all metas, amazing idea.

Not.

Jhin shouldnt be getting buffs at all.

Acheron161/30/2018, 8:59:16 PM2 votes

No. These changes are a simple revert. He's good agaisnt squishies and struggles against tanks, he doesn't need more changes.

vgamedude1/31/2018, 12:23:50 AM2 votes

Jhin is probably one of the only healthy adcs in the game in my opinion. He's only struggling because the other adcs are insane.

Eternal Engine1/31/2018, 7:51:53 PM2 votes

Holy yikes is there a lot of arguing in this thread. Does anyone here actually primarily play Jhin? He's weak. Not the weakest, not terrible/unfun/impossible to play and win with, but he's definitely in a less advantageous state at the moment compared to other the other ADC champions.

A champion's win rate is most definitely a majority stat to include in one's reasoning when discussing a champion's current game strength. I absolutely agree other statistics need to be taken into account, but according to most sites I've looked at (op.gg, metasrc, etc.), Jhin consistently sits at the lower end of the ADC list in terms of strength. Anyone who argues against this statistical fact is just delusional.

See the following data from op.gg on his winrate in each major division over the past 7 days (NA region):

Bronze - 46.15% Silver - 47.67% Gold - 49.32% Platinum - 47.53% Diamond - 51.33%

This leaves him with an average winrate of 48.40%. Pretty meh, if you ask me.

I fervently feel (as someone who mains this champion) the reason he feels weak is due to the resurgence of the "tanky deeps" meta. Champions like Illaoi, Urgot, Sion, Singed, Zac (you get what I'm saying) - these champions are designed to stack health with damage and participate in extended fights. If I play Vayne/Trist/Jinx with BotRK, these tanks stand far less of a chance due to the percentage health shred. Jhin cannot feasibly build this item, and, as such, he struggles because he is unable to perform percentage HP damage combined with quick attack speed. Hell, I've even been playing ADC Twisted Fate and using the BotRK/Rageblade combo and it feels more effective than crit or lethality Jhin.

Lethality Jhin still packs a punch in lane against other ADC champions, and it's fun as hell to destroy them in lane. It's the transitioning out of lane and into the Vlad/Sion/Zac/etc. encounters where, even if I'm ahead on items/gold/level, I feel very weak compared to my other ADC champions I like to play.

I think once Riot continues toning down the strength of the frontline tanks we'll see Jhin hit a stronger state again. However, time will tell.

Binding Eclipse1/30/2018, 9:21:28 PM1 votes

Leave Jhin alone, he's fine.