Autoattacking a plant should NOT use up Sona's Power Chord

Monarchk··202 votes·5,839 views

As a level 7 Sona main, this drives me nuts. Why does auto-attacking a plant with Power Chord active consume the Power Chord? Auto-attacking a ward does not consume the Power Chord, so why are plants different? I know this is just a minor thing, but I would appreciate if this change was considered.

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RivetAce31 votes

Same with Nasus Q, except it doesn't even give you stacks. And wards do.

Oglaf25 votes

Same with Poppy's Buckler.

To add insult to injury, hitting the plant with it doesn't even count as a kill so it isn't automatically returned to you; you have to go pick it up yourself.

Legacy Hydralpha10 votes

Poppy being my main jungler, I can agree with this. Either have it not waste the buckler or have it auto return, which would make jungle clear stronger.

Monsta Moo1 votes

Wow, that's pretty shitty.

Requiemsfire1 votes

You've no idea how many times I've hit the plant while I was out of range to be moved by the explosion as Poppy when I intended to go over a wall. :l

kolpy9910 votes

Also Kled's W passive procs off it

50000000000000009 votes

Maybe they're coded as minions

Elisheva1 votes

{quoted}

Maybe they're coded as minions

Everything is coded as minions with rito. Lerning is be an hrad

P0IS0N IVY6 votes

A plant is a minion.

Malicious Metal5 votes

But...but... Hitting a blast cone with Q2 and blasting the unsuspecting ADC with Q3 is awesome...

Linkedgamer4 votes

But then who was Q1?

RiotMeddler5 votes

We're with you there. Plan is to make plants behave just like wards in terms of which auto attack enhancers they do/don't consume. We've adjusted a number of abilities in 6.23 to address that as a result, with some more coming in 6.24 as well. Not certain which patch Sona's in off the top of the head.

Krys Star1 votes

Sona's Power Chord is also consumed by Teemo's mushrooms. Idk if that's ever been fixed as I haven't played her in a long while, especially against a Teemo.

LankPants1 votes

You might want to be careful of Nasus when you do that, I'm not sure if him stacking plants would be a great thing.

Veraska1 votes

Any thoughts on making Kleds W behave a similar way? It feels really bad to waste your w proc on a plant or wards

DeathBurst1 votes

Not on wards, no (except blue). It can be the difference between destroying it before it fades to invisibility or not. Or between destroying a control ward fast enough to get back to safety and dying for 75g and feeling stupid.

iLLp3 votes

same with tf gold card

Spoofghoul3 votes

why are wards different i think wards should also consume powerchord

Fairyfleur2 votes

why should they?

Battlecast Sona1 votes

you clearly don't play Sona. This would (and did) hurt her mana pool a LOT in the early part of the game, because you have to cast 3 spells for power chord and 2 of her spells have fairly prohibitive mana costs. The ward functionality change basically allowed her to actually play as a support without kneecapping herself... why would you want that back?

Weathered2 votes

If it doesn't use the chord on wards, it shouldn't on plants. Good catch +1

Primaquarius2 votes

As another Sona main (Tier 6, 2 Tier 7 tokens), I wish I could upvote this more than once

khorney2 votes

Dude deal with it. Are you not aa and power cord is a empower aa

Fairyfleur6 votes

The problem is that you keep the chord forever until you use it, and if you waste it on a plant you have to use three more spells to get it back.

khorney1 votes

and are you not aa? since your aa you will use it since her chord is a aa empowered attack..... so tell me why you wouldnt use it?

D Hardy2 votes

I promise I would tell you if I could just understand wtf you're saying. But anyways try reading the ability, it probably explicitly states it is consumed when attacking enemy.. "units" or something of that matter. Most definitely intentional.

khorney1 votes

okay her power chord is a spellblade effect liek a empowered aa. aa meaning it is a basic attack. plants are a type of jungle

Battlecast Sona2 votes

but if you attack a ward it doesn't use the powerchord. That functionality could be brought over, considering that plants give less gold and exp than wards do, and yet Sona must use resources to break one and not the other (hint: it's not the one that actually gives gold and exp).

Fairyfleur2 votes

Thank you

ACTI0NBASTARD2 votes

As a Sona main, I absolutely agree. Have my upvote.

WinTheWarOnPants2 votes

I agree with OP^. Plants should be removed.

dunkeroni2 votes

Yeah, I posted this in bug reports a few days ago. I assume they just forgot about that interaction. Sona's power chord used to proc on wards too. They'll fix it eventually.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Iit's the same with any other empowered AA. Worst of it is Kled, as he has no controll over his W, if clears a plant he it goes on cd and there is nothing he can do to avoid that.

TyroneWatermelon2 votes

Mash keyboard 3 more times for another one

D Hardy1 votes

I am not positive but I do believe that Power Chord does more damage to the plant than a normal auto correct? If it was someone's intention that they use Power Chord in order to clear a plant faster... say its going to kill your adc, then that would be a very good reason for Power Chord to be consumed. As plants are very similar to minions it only makes sense. Also Power Chord has no effect on a ward while it does affect plants so why would it be consumed by wards.

I assume nasus Q is consumed because nasus has the potential to stack wards, not because nasus Q does more "damage" to wards.

Just in case anyone considered that rebuttal

PickleBabah2 votes

I think op means the jungle plants, (vision, knockback, heal) wrong are one shot anyway unless I am mistaken horribly.

Swerd2 votes

What are you talking about? plants take one hit no matter what.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

He is talking about Zyra's plants, I guess. Just a misunderstanding.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

So if you can compenstate for Sona, why not do this for Jungle Kled's W?

Seenan1 votes

It also uses up Cait's headshot.

Dengeden1 votes

Gotta make up for dat dank advantage ranged champions have over melees when it comes to plants.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

Kleditem 3340 WHAT ABOUT LOSING AN EFFECT!!!

BlunterMonk1 votes

yeah cause auto attacking an enemy is not auto attacking an enemy.

wards are not enemies, they are wards.

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