How could I play adc now. Farm 20 mins then get one shot by some fighters. Most of my friends don't play this game anymore, because this game is just about who can chooses a better combination, there is nothing to do with skills and operations.
Nhifu10 votesEven faker says solo queue is bullshit.
High challengers being matched with masters lmao.
People bitch, moan and complain about queue times then we get this disaster of a game lol
Ulquiorra01231 votesIt's alot worse than this, high challengers don't complain about masters in their games, they complain about D2s being in their games. That is the only complaint that faker has.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesI mean NA soloQ has always been shit in terms of matchmaking. I still remember quas in s6 or s7 it was being matched with plat 3-d1 against a full high diamond team. It was in the middle of the night sure but holy hell. Placing the rank 2 challenger in this game to balance out some platties and low diamonds LUL.
Saianna8 votesFarm 20 mins then get one shot by some fighters.
Few patches ago ADCs were main bursting offenders and everything was fine then, riiiight?
I love some of those comments stating how ADC are worthless class now. It took Riot 2 nerfs for ADC kids lose their collective shit. You guys would have long lost voice from screaming and yelling if you mained mages with that attitude lol
ADCs are finally trimmed down and players can't get used to the feeling of not being OP.
HàrrowR3 votesFew patches ago ADCs were main bursting offenders and everything was fine then, riiiight?
I love some of those comments stating how ADC are worthless class now. It took Riot 2 nerfs for ADC kids lose their collective shit. You guys would have long lost voice from screaming and yelling if you mained mages with that attitude lol
ADCs are finally trimmed down and players can't get used to the feeling of not being OP.
ADCs were never op,you cant fucking call a class that has to be babysitted to do anything OP,they are basically a part of a 2 man team,one is keeping him alive,the support,and one is dealing damage,how can you call something that is useless without a good team and a support OP is beyond me...mages can do the same damage while not relying on anyone,i play mages too
Cake Depression4 votesthey were OP because the baby sat ADC won. So before the patch, if you babysat a mage help them get fed they stood no chance against the babysat enemy ADC late game. 9 times out of 10 the more fed/ farmed adc won the game. Having to devote an entire team to keep an adc fed and alive cause the adc that is more fed will win the game, is a statement of how OP the role really was. The fact that the general rule for months has been that the adc has the inherent rights to everyones farm because thats how you win is a statement of how OP they were. You say you play mages too, you must be aware that as a mage there is no universe in which you 2 shot or 1 shot someone from full hp. Mages rely on combos and skill shots and then go on cooldown. I still remember Jhin popping a Xayah from 80% health with 1 right click. I remember the Ori ult combo on 4 people in competitive and them still losing the fight cause hey, mages just dont do much late game.
GayFluffyUnicorn6 votesYa. Having the cheapest three item combo that also scales the absolute hardest is not op. No. Fleetfootwork healing for 300 per crit auto was not op without building any lifesteal no. ADCs taking over the game with bf sword+zeal item was not op no.
Finally you dogshit armless adc players need some skill and mechanics and everyone loses their fuckin mind which i can get since you will most likely drop two tiers with a finally balanced role. Now gut supports already and this game might be a bit more fun again.
Don't get me wrong, riot should just revert the base stats nerf on ADCs again but the nerf to the items have been a MUST.
Highwiseene1 votesADC is actually way more difficult than you think it is. I had to stop playing it because of how complex the role was. You have to keep track of the enemy's cooldowns like you're an assassin, you have to know who can and who is willing to peel for you and position accordingly, you have to know which cooldowns you can use on who to kite, etc etc. all while making sure you're keeping up in both farm and still being with your team when they need you (you have no tp to help you with this). If you fall a little bit behind, you're just going to get one shot an do basically no damage. And this was the ADC before the base stat and item nerfs.
In my opinion, riot should try to buff up adc's base stats while keeping their item costs the same. It feels so bad playing an adc early game in this meta.
For me, playing mages is so much easier. Due to having a much higher range and CC of yourself you don't have to worry about positioning anywhere near as much.
HàrrowR1 votesYa. Having the cheapest three item combo that also scales the absolute hardest is not op. No. Fleetfootwork healing for 300 per crit auto was not op without building any lifesteal no. ADCs taking over the game with bf sword+zeal item was not op no.
Finally you dogshit armless adc players need some skill and mechanics and everyone loses their fuckin mind which i can get since you will most likely drop two tiers with a finally balanced role. Now gut supports already and this game might be a bit more fun again.
Don't get me wrong, riot should just revert the base stats nerf on ADCs again but the nerf to the items have been a MUST.
top main player telling someone he needs skill and mechanics LOL.
Try playing the squishiest class in the game that has no CC or burst and is the lowest level cause you need to share xp... youre playing jax man,i think i can hit Diamond just by hitting my head on my keyboard while playing him
Beacon Academy6 votesThere is a difference between ADC's in a game where matches last 40~minutes so they can actually reach their intended late game carry potential and ADC's in a game decided by the 10-15 minute mark on which team will probably win.
If the possibility of reaching your potential is decent as long as you keep trying, there wouldn't be many complaints.
But most of the time you're not going to get fed in solo queue as an ADC with a random support and games will be decided by whichever team had the bigger cheese strat/momentum early game.
It doesn't matter how much the ADC who is behind tries, a person can't stop an avalanche.
The same thing happened for other roles when ADC's were power spiking too early.
Now ADC's are spiking late again while everyone else spikes far too early.
Highwiseene1 votesIt's also that, and it's also the fact that their early game got hit really hard with their base stat changes.
Saianna2 votesAll of this is obvious, but when mages had the same issue (their items were more expensive) and couldn't hardly anything early-mid game, all of you called them whiners.
ADCs should spike lategame, they shouldn't be 1man armies as they were for like 4 seasons.
I admit that Riot nerfed crit-ADC too fast without giving you time to adjust, but in the end, this is the state you should have been since season 4.
Cake Depression7 votesAnd treating the baby adc as a god for months was about skill? Oh you have to gank bot cause if your adc loses you lose the game, oh the adc is mid must give them all your farm cause they are the adc and they are required to win, let them take all your jungle farm as well, the more farm the adc has the more chance you have to win the game. And pray to all the gods that your adc is not a complete monkey that he will be able to carry if you spoon feed him farm and kills and then let them right click things and blow them up while you try to keep them alive.
And you CAN play adc, Ezreal, Xayah, Kaisa and Lucian are still good in the game. Adcs are just not a role that can pick any marksman and be viable, sit back, farm and have priority forever cause late game they can destroy everything and you need them for that. You are just like the rest of us now. Welcome to the game.
HàrrowR3 votes[{quoted}](name=Cake Depression,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lh6fZKeO,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-06-17T10:48:02.399+0000)
And treating the baby adc as a god for months was about skill? Oh you have to gank bot cause if your adc loses you lose the game, oh the adc is mid must give them all your farm cause they are the adc and they are required to win, let them take all your jungle farm as well, the more farm the adc has the more chance you have to win the game. And pray to all the gods that your adc is not a complete monkey that he will be able to carry if you spoon feed him farm and kills and then let them right click things and blow them up while you try to keep them alive.
And you CAN play adc, Ezreal, Xayah, Kaisa and Lucian are still good in the game. Adcs are just not a role that can pick any marksman and be viable, sit back, farm and have priority forever cause late game they can destroy everything and you need them for that. You are just like the rest of us now. Welcome to the game.
load of bullshit,if you cant carry with mid/jg,even top then youre just a bad player,i have more damage going mid or jg than adc almost every time...
Cake Depression4 votesYeah? on what account? Cause on this one you primarily play adc and from profile games, you very rarely have games where you out dps the adc when youre on mid or jungle, and those are losses where your adc got stomped and theirs was fed, and even then you barely out dmg them, less than 1k dmg difference. Other times the ADC always outdmgs you when you play jungle or mid. At least in ranked play.
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesMight be because you are straight up a bad player yourself? Ex "diamond" that gets shiton in ranked against gold 5s? You serious? And the game after that a plat 5 where you inted 2/10. I'm smelling it's not the champion you choose considering you played against ADCs yourself.
GayFluffyUnicorn3 votesThat's exactly where these complains stem from. Armless low elo adc players that got used to farm for 15 minutes and autowin the game by rightclick burst everyone. They will all drop some divisions now without their busted role. Can't tell you how many master tier borders i see this season now sitting in d4 for hundreds of games. League of ardent made it possible.
Aiko Umesawa6 votesShort Answer: Don't play adc. Long Answer: ADC is the most worthless role (currently). Then they decide to nerf supports with them.
That's not all though. They have/had an item on the PbE (I haven't checked to see if it's still there) that can block damage.
On an unrelated note, I would love to see riot put in the option to use the old TT music.
D357R0Y3R2 votes[{quoted}](name=Aiko Umesawa,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lh6fZKeO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-17T06:26:27.715+0000)
Then they decide to nerf supports with them.
and pros still play 2 supports in each team in every game
supports are definitly balanced now
ISeeDumbPeople4 votesYeah I can see the outcome of most matches just by champ select. Unfortunately I tend to ignore the voice screaming: dodge you can't win this one lol. Its basically like: Unless 1 to 2 people are smurfing we are going to get stomped... if we have the smurfs they get stomped... either way boring/frustrating to play. That is why I have been climbing in 3s. Much more progress there with less bs map imbalances at least.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesIm so glad for the copypaste op.gg feature that shows your entire team. Another negative winrate on top of losing streak team? Better dodge and preserve my elo.
Blåbæret4 votes[{quoted}](name=aslkhf fskha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lh6fZKeO,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-17T03:09:38.048+0000)
How could I play adc now. Farm 20 mins then get one shot by some fighters. Most of my friends don't play this game anymore, because this game is just about who can chooses a better combination, there is nothing to do with skills and operations.
Okay, so fighters oneshotting is not OK, but ADCs doing it from range is OK? Lmao. There's a lot of wrongs with this game, but ADCs getting nerfed was definitely a good thing.
heroikc3 votesYeah, can't play anywhere on rift now cause my favorites are either weak or useless. Thanks Riot for bringing back snowballing.
Daddy Ants2 votesYeah, can't play anywhere on rift now cause my favorites are either weak or useless. Thanks Riot for bringing back snowballing.
https://i.imgur.com/245sgbm.png
Luckily for us they had a Soraka mid and I was able to get me and my duo partner (The Lux) extremely fed.
I literally sat mid most of the game, only went bot or top for free kills.
Few patches ago ADCs were main bursting offenders and everything was fine then, riiiight?
I love some of those comments stating how ADC are worthless class now. It took Riot 2 nerfs for ADC kids lose their collective shit. You guys would have long lost voice from screaming and yelling if you mained mages with that attitude lol
ADCs are finally trimmed down and players can't get used to the feeling of not being OP.
LOL.
Difference between ADC's and Mages is Mages don't need 30-35+ minutes to have a minor amount of impact on a game.
Late game when games are ending in 20- 25 minutes.
Kyovulpes3 votesYou must be playing Crit carries which are ass right now. My win rate on MF has been so high after this patch that I for sure will be able to see myself getting to high Gold even maybe plat the end of this season. This post just tells me two things
You were a crit carry who abuse the massive sustain of Fleet and Dorans shield
[edited by mod] didn't know how to take your advantage in lane just waited to take advantage for the items.
I rarely get carried on MF and always do the Carrying Shit even on Sivir cause of 
I know that im going to carry the game Ridiculously hard. This past patch is just exposing peeps who were in for the free LP adc crit wave and now most of them are gonna suffer for it. I'm ENJOYING THIS fuck Hyper carries.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
GayFluffyUnicorn4 votesEven the casters said yesterday: adcs are still good please don't stop picking them.
Which is true. Majority of complaints are coming from low elo adcs. Crit adcs below diamond are all perfectly viable. It really only becomes a problem in high dia+ where games regularly end in 15-20 minutes and crit adcs get shiton by ornn in lane.
ModKnightsKemplar1 votesHey Kyovulpes,
Did an edit on your post; please remember to be respectful to other players. No need to be insulting or disparaging because you disagree with them about something.
If you have any questions about this, please feel free to visit us on the Discuss the Boards sub-board or our Discord server.
--KnightsKemplar Herald
Hammermancer2 votesOh boy i feel so sorry for you guys that you'lre not dealing 1k damage per auto twice a second at 15 minutes with lifesteal and infinite shielding from your support
Must feel bad to have to play your champ as they were in past seasons... where they did fine
i'll give you a hint
two defensive ad items will get you in the game
here's a list of defensive ad items that will help depending on your adc
adcs literally didn't have to counter build for the last two years other than the occasional lord doms or mortal reminder, which most just skipped
adcs literally have been doing six item builds and unless an item is particularly over powered( 
) they wouldn't touch anything else
sorry you don't get to build three or four crit items and a lifesteal item with attack speed boots and call it a day now
Gear Jammer1 votesIdk somehow I've been doing good this patch as WW jungle 91% winrates recently on him maybe just cause he so easy to play idk... I know I'm bad but shiz I've been doing good last few days
Youfus1 votesThe company tries to push team work in solo queue but it's a bunch of people who don't know each other and have never met and may be very very intolerable to each others actions/mistakes. They should be pushing a more carry aspect instead of the shit storm"team game" they're trying to create,which will never happen. Either way the carry aspect is much more enjoyable and fun for both teams since it isn't a literal 1v5. Like in terms of power you have a 10 but the other four of the enemy also have the power of 10, making it an extremely unfair fight if you get unfortunate players. If you win lane you should be able to carry be cause you're playing not because of skill, because in this meta not even that can help you
