WINNING LANE ?

Isedelica·Jun 27, 2016·1 votes·325 views

so I have been recording my game plays for a while now, and I've noticed something I could literally say 90% but im pretty sure 80% of the time I am winning lane but my other teammates lanes aren't winning it literally feels like a trend and this is most games

even when I lose the lane early I can usually make a comeback and push lane either way, and it's getting to a point where im tired of trying to carry a game it's really annoying

I had a game with nasus 1 kill 8 deaths and I still won my lane almost took out the nexus alone but my team could barely take turrets and this is in ever lane mid, bot, top even jg

anyone else having this issue cause honestly I don't feel like carrying all the damn time

6 Comments

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 27, 20162 votes

lots of people think they have this issue

to be honest it really doesn't matter if you win lane or not in the end. You either do enough to win or you don't.

Today I was playing a game with really awful players as ahri. But instead of prioritizing winning mid I went bot and won bot and then came back and won mid anyways and top lost their lane but it didn't matter because I was just winning all over everything.

But what if all I did was "win my lane" we might have lost in that case.

You also need to define winning your lane.

"herpderp I got your tower first I won the lane" said garen to me who was playing irelia once only to turn around and out farm and shit on him for the rest of the game due to the many strategic errors he'd made so that he could take my tower and pat himself on the back.

IsedelicaJun 28, 20161 votes

i don't mind helping but one there's a jungle for that especially early game than even when I do help they can barely follow up, there's usually at least one player on my team that can usually hold his or her own, and figuring out who that is takes a bit

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 28, 20162 votes

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i don't mind helping but one there's a jungle for that especially early game than even when I do help they can barely follow up, there's usually at least one player on my team that can usually hold his or her own, and figuring out who that is takes a bit

then wait a bit and get it done

don't depend on the jungler for anything.

If you get shit on in lane don't call the jungler for help unless the jungler can actually make a difference, its a waste of time if it wont accomplish anything. If the jungler is doing his job then go do his job with him if it makes sense. DOUBLE GANK FOR DOUBLE SUCCESS

A lot of people make the mistake of just staying in lane after they accomplish something then they go 10/0 and can't figure out why someone with 3/0 has just as much gold as them since they got higher quality kills and then also made a bigger difference on the game.

QQshaJun 28, 20161 votes

Define "winning lane". Pretty sure you don't fully understand the concept. If you're winning lane 80% of the time, you should be winning around 60% of your games. You won 45% of the last 20...

At the same time, Bronze players don't know what to do with leads when they get them.

Here are your priorities:

Get your 2-3 item spike faster than the enemy team (when they're at 1-1.5 items).
Then go and pick fights when you have numbers advantage (2v1, 3v2, 4v3; since you're ahead, you can fight if the numbers are even as well, but look for numbers advantage anyways).
Get the experience lead and further your gold lead, and you should be an unstoppable force so long as you focus on doing damage without throwing away your life like a boosted MLB pitcher.

Winning lane doesn't mean shit unless you are either vastly more useful in teamfights or vastly stronger in 1v1s to the point where you can force the enemy team to use more resources (champions) to stop you. You're not carrying. You're just herp derping around waiting for the enemy team to throw the game at you harder than you can throw it back. This isn't exclusive to you or your ELO. This happens in high diamond and masters as well. The key to winning is getting leads and not throwing them away. You might not know how to get a lead, but you can easily learn how to not throw them away (like by not missing easy, free CS).

IsedelicaJun 28, 20161 votes

winning lane

taking the inhib all by myself most of the time so you have free range to push other lanes without worry while my team is either losing or still on there first turret plus I just had a game before writing this and guess what the same thing happened and we almost lost again cause of my team

look cs at a certain point means very little it is important but not the most important and when I play with randoms not dying is very hard

but when I play with people I know, we can snow ball easy, had a game with a friend and she asked me too take it seriously we did not die the whole game took turrets, rotated well, it was a clean game,

also don't look for fights look for free turrets for some reason people are stupid they leave there turrets defense less constantly, too me there just dumb cause the game isn't about kills its about getting turrets until you take the nexus

that's why in tournament it takes a while for fights to start you see them hit the turret then leave then hit the turret again then leave again until its down, yet not a single fight has broken out it's not hard honestly

QQshaJun 29, 20161 votes

You're a support. You shouldn't be taking inhib by yourself for many reasons.
Yes, it's your team's fault. It's ALWAYS the team. That'll really get you places.
CS in a winning lane is the difference from being a big problem and being an unstoppable problem. 7/1 Lucian at 15m with 60 CS? We can stop that! 7/1 Lucian at 15m with 120 CS? We're probably fucked no matter what we do because he's 2k gold up on us instead of just being 1k gold up.
Who you play with has no impact on how hard it is to stay alive. It's really easy. Either improve your mechanics, decision-making, or both. For you, I recommend decision-making, because the process to improve decision-making has better long term effects on improving as a player, while mechanics will naturally develop just from playing the game.
Thinking about going for free turrets as opposed to thinking in numbers advantage is a dangerous way to go. An outer bot turret is unguarded at half HP. Is it free or is it not? Well you just saw 3+ of them do dragon. If you think in numbers advantage, you say "Fuck this shit, I'm taking jungle camps", and you avoid a very silly death. Numbers advantage->kills->more numbers advantage->multiple objectives. At higher levels, objectives are never free. They always come at a cost. You split push a side lane without TP? Well fuck, they just ran down 2 turrets mid. Good job on that one "free" turret.
While I could explain in detail why they're doing what they do in professional play, it's 100% meaningless because solo queue and professional play are strategically and tactically incomparable. If everyone had to bet $1000 on every solo queue game they played, I'm sure things would change quite a bit, but it's still different. Even at the highest ELOs where play should theoretically be the closest, it's still incredibly different.
If you want to just keep shoveling out excuses instead of looking at ways to improve (or at the very least, win), then fine. Continue with your whine post and may your opponents serve you cheese to compliment it. But if you want things to go better, stop looking at what your team does. Stop blaming them for their stupid mistakes (you make just as many of them). Focus only on the things you can do that are independent of your team's actions. For example, in Bronze, I could get 3 kills with Ryze with 70+ CS at 10 minutes, then walk to other lanes and kill them, getting ~8 kills with ~150 CS at 20 minutes, then proceed to delete everyone with my Void Staff power spike. The closest guy to me on the other team will probably have 3k less gold than me.