Because the meta is bruiser heavy right now, and Vayne excels at dealing with them, suddenly she has become 'op' and 'rito nerf plz'. She still has a whole host of counterplay (early) and some pretty defined windows of power. Yet all these people are calling for rito to bring the nerf hammer down and annihilate her playability. it just makes me sad.
redniwediS5 votesThere isn't a single self respecting bruiser main who says this. Bruisers love destroying ADCs, and so Vayne is that greatest of hunts. She is our most dangerous game.
IcyPepper4 votesUm, people were complaining about Vayne recently before the juggernaut reworks.
I mean, I know where you're coming from, but bruisers dominating came after the recent Vayne complaints.
galdamesh3 votesher early counterplay isn't that open anymore, because of the bruiser heavy meta to be more of a threat then her enemy adc all she has to do is stay close to even in gold.
she has ALOT of safety when played passively, she's hard to tower dive effectively, is always going to rush lifesteal, can actually out trade many adc's at lvl 3 and has the tools to beat most at lvl 6.
it's mainly the meta favoring her, but also many early game adc's who kept her in check got nerfed allowing her more freedom inn her weakest stage
FalconPawwwwnch3 votesExcept Vayne was top tier in the tank meta, she's top tier in the bruiser meta, and she's also been top tier in most assassin metas (see Season 3)
ABlueQuaker1 votesYeah. I don't disagree that she needs nerfs (I'm particularly in favour of her Range being reduced to 500 which should allow the rest of her kit to remain unaltered for the foreseeable future), but saying she is OP or lacks counterplay is a stretch. I do, however, agree that she's been comparatively strong for quite a while now.
Frostwoman2 votesxD lets have the epic assassin meta again
Crett2 votesNo...
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ABlueQuaker2 votesYou know what deals with Vayne well? Hard poke and heavy disengage.
Source: ADC -not Vayne- Main. I've played my fair share of all AD Carries and know their strengths and weaknesses. This is by far the safest way to deal with Vayne. Actually trying to fight Vayne at Full HP in her current state is too much of a gamble. Not to mention, this weakness will become an even bigger one if her Range is reduced to 500 (which is a nerf that a lot of higher elo players are asking for atm).
SlaktarTasken1 votesRange is avarage, the lack of poke is another thing though her extreme success testifies that if you have enough of everything else (selfpeel, damage, mobility, utility) you don't really need it.
It's up 12 seconds at max rank, that's far longer than most teamfights take to decide. And once she has won her TF she will ofc chase every straggler down becuase of her retarded passive.
She doesn't need to condemn anyone to destroy them, she does have a team you know and she outdamages/outsustains pretty much every adc as she's the only one who can rush scepter/cutlass/botrk without any drawbacks while they are pidgeonholed into getting more expensive and or more items to reach a similar powerspike, alas, what was supposed to be a slow scaling hypercarry is now an early and lategame hypercarry.
Stupid argumentation, baiting isn't a strategy as it relies on you opponents to be dumb and make mistakes, where are the outplaying/counterplaying options? Poking her out of lane isn't an option anymore since she just rushes lifesteal since she profits so much from it anyway, all-inning her simply requires u to play better so given equal skill it's a fail tactic. Dueling... lol, just lol, no one duels Vayne, it's utterly retarded that an ADC can be the most independent champion in the game, considering how they wreck teamfights if played well.
The only option you have against Vayne is killing her before she kills you, that because of her stupid passive, fail to do so and you will always lose. And what makes it worse is that, unlike Jinx, Kog'Maw or any other non-mobile ADC, they can easely be caught and 100-0'd, Vayne actually has all the tools to stay alive, so so much for that strategy.
ABlueQuaker1 votesHer stupid passive that gives her movement speed toward enemy champions? Or the one she has in place of having an actual Active Ability on her W?
AtheosisX2 votesVayne doesn't just wreck bruisers.
SlaktarTasken1 votesAnother main Vayne who can't stand the thought of atually having to put in some effort for the win, nothing to see, just downvote and move on.
