What does the "Riot Balance team" even do?

BeefyFatKid··4 votes·1,199 views

I'm low key salty at the moment (just barely tried post QoL Akali nerf) but I've been thinking this for a while.

It seems like every time you guys patch something, you make something horribly overpowered, or terribly under-powered. So why do you do anything at all? Do you do anything at all?

I play a modded version of Super Smash Bros. called Project M, in which 41 characters are overall pretty balanced (balanced in that anybody is competitively viable). People dismiss this as a fantasy for League of Legends because the sheer amount of characters, items, and strategies involved in this game, vs. the one dimensional aspect of a fighting game like Project M. Which I completely respect and acknowledge, but why not just stop churning out champions for a second and actually balance your game? There are champions who are inherently bad, just from their kits, why do they get no love? I don't know your finances but skins make just as much money as champions right? Like the title says, what does the balance team even do? I've been playing since S1 (I'm still bad) but if the balance team wasn't here, I wouldn't notice (things like release TF, could be considered bug fixes).

I just tried out Akali and although still viable in solo Q (perhaps even competitive idk) she feels god awful, it's not even fun anymore. If you build AP you need to wait for her slow auto attack to come out as her R doesn't proc the Q and neither does her E....... Why? I'd imagine because there was a time where she was auto banned in Solo Q.....? But even then, there was considerable counter play (sweeper, or in a better time, oracle).

Diana does, and always has done: the same exact thing as Akali, except now Akali sucks (so that she takes more skill, I think was the balance teams excuse for that nerf), and so does Katarina. Matter of fact, I'd say Katarina has ALWAYS been a better version of Akali, and Katarina has gone virtually untouched... There's literally no reason to pick Akali over Diana now, and if someone from the balance team see's this, and tells me they're looking for an answer to this..... Why not just revert the nerf until you do find a solution.

And then the Azir auto attack range nerf, I believe that nerf dropped his winrate down to around 37% from 45%......... stopping right here would question the validity of the nerf, but lets continue. There is/was a super simple answer to Azir's early lane dominance (have his W's AA range scale with the level of it), but no- the balance team ruined the character for a few weeks (when you could've just reverted the nerfs after the initial nerf was a mistake).

EDIT: I guess I'm just not satisfied with the game/balance anymore, and it sucks because I really used to like this game, and it seems like I'm finally starting to get better with all the time I've invested into League. Don't even care if anybody reads this anymore, this is a goodbye for myself.

Tl;dr: Honest question from a long time frustrated player, what does the balance team even do?

3 Comments

Snarflaz2 votes

Well it's hard to find a right nerf for a champion meaning where dies her power come from. They have to decide "Is this Champion really OP or is it just the players being skillful". But let's be honest here there are plenty of champions that need skill to play. But you learn quickly enough. For example ZED, he may have to throw shurikens and place his shadows the correct positions. But thats basic easy stuff, i mean come on i tried him on the free week and i learned. You just poke them down in lane then Deathmark them when there almost lower than half HP.

But sometimes the riot balance team doesn't listen to the players in league. I just want them to be more aware about the champions we are complaining about. They nerfed Katarina but we are still complaining about her.(Shes Basically the same as her old self she can delete single targets in less than a second).

Original Quitter1 votes

She is EXACTLY like her old self now.

Riot nerfed Katarina and failed everytime.

So then they reworked her and "took her damage out of her ult" so people just made Tank Katarina, so they nerfed that. Then she was useless so they "put her damage back into her ult" then when that didn't work they made her ult front loaded so it deals nearly the same damage in the first 2 seconds now, that the ult used to do over 3 seconds.

The only thing that rework kat did was make her more mindless to play.

Seems like the balance team can only do a few things.

Destroy and redo entire champions kits when all they need is a 20 damage increase on 1 skill

or

Completely ignore the actual issue of a champion and patch them 16 times in a row so the "feel" is the same meanwhile they are still borken and being abused and only 2 champions have gotten changes in 6 months as they have been constantly nerfing lucian, or sona, or jax or kassadin, or whoever any other champion that saw 6+ buffs/nerfs over the course of a few months.

Riot needs to stop with the bloody reworks and just make a few minor changes to champions, esepcialy the old ones.

You could do minor tweeks to about 20 champs right now that would make them more competitive and let people who like these champs not be out classed constantly.

Just look at season 5. Riot nearly destroyed this game, by gutting the jungle. LCS viewership was down nearly 20,000 viewers across the board until patch 5.5 and the game became playable/watchable again.

No mastery reworks, no rune rebalance.

I kinda agree, feels like the balance team is lazy as fuk and hides behind making "proper" changes.

THE BIGGEST OFFENCE - gutting champions due to an item, then nerfing that tiem, and leaving the champion to sit and suck air.

Talon and MIss Fortune both got this treatment when it was League of Black cleaver, and everyone was playing talon/MF and sona/amumu due to black cleaver stacking and aoe comps.

windwolf7771 votes

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THE BIGGEST OFFENCE - gutting champions due to an item, then nerfing that tiem, and leaving the champion to sit and suck air.

Talon and MIss Fortune both got this treatment when it was League of Black cleaver, and everyone was playing talon/MF and sona/amumu due to black cleaver stacking and aoe comps.

Warwick + item 3718 = LOL NERFED INTO THE GROUND item 3070_item 3070

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