Gangplank and spellthief's edge

Corgi Reformed·Dec 14, 2014·21 votes·3,108 views

Why is it that Gangplanks passive doesn't proc spellthief's edge, while brands passive does? Both of them deal magic damage per second, and both can be proc'd by a spell.

17 Comments

RenailleDec 14, 201418 votes

Pirates don't thief spells. They thief booty.

The5lackerDec 15, 20148 votes

Brand's passive applies spell effects such as Rylai's and Spellvamp.

Gangplank's passive does not apply spell effects as it as coded as an on-hit effect.

KingsgraveDec 14, 20146 votes

Gangplanks Q isn't coded as a spell and his passive only applies on autos

Remlap1223Dec 15, 20141 votes

His Q is actually coded as a spell, but it's also coded as a melee attack. It's why it can activate Spellblade and proc it on hit, like Ezreal's Q except more awesome cuz it can crit.

Urdnot EntarDec 14, 20144 votes

Riot is seemingly allergic to consistency. This is just one area of many.

Kitsuki05Dec 15, 20143 votes

Wrong, Ganplank's passive is an attack modifier, not a spell modifier. Spellthief does not proc off of dots from attacks in any scenario

HaestroDec 14, 20143 votes

Yeah, I demand equality.

I Summons IDec 14, 20141 votes

maybe it's to deter people from buying that item on gp ._.

Ariel the CruelDec 15, 20141 votes

Doesn't work. It's still a staple of support-plank.

Remlap1223Dec 15, 20145 votes

What? Why the hell would you not build Relic Shield on him? You get the bonus gold and give your laner CS.

Ariel the CruelDec 16, 20141 votes

His biggest strength in lane is his reliable poke. His gold generation is about the same since the frost line gives better gold generation. You could argue the benefit of giving gold to your lane partner, but I don't like forcibly pushing lane when I lack reliable peel. Unless that's the plan - which is rare for Yolo queue.

SaiannaDec 15, 20141 votes

Just wondering: does Darius passive proc spellthief? It's magic damage afterall.

Meep ManDec 15, 20141 votes

Not sure since it is both an on-hit and on-spell effect. Someone should test that.

TerchuyDec 15, 20141 votes

No. Darius's bleed does not apply spell effects like Rylai's, Spell Vamp or Spellthief's Edge Tribute.

KingsgraveDec 16, 20141 votes

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No. Darius's bleed does not apply spell effects like Rylai's, Spell Vamp or Spellthief's Edge Tribute.

It used to though but they removed it

Remlap1223Dec 15, 20141 votes

It's Riot's way of saying "If you're going to break the meta, at least build SupPlank properly."

TerchuyDec 15, 20141 votes

Brand's Blaze passive is an on-spell effect like Morgana's Soul Siphon or Annie's stun. Blaze probably needs to apply Spell Effects because in addition to the damage, Blaze applies a debuff which enhances Brand's abilities on the target, and which is a spell effect.

Gangplank's passive is bonus on-hit damage for landing autoattacks. Bonus on-hit damage from autoattacks does not generally proc Spell Vamp. Gangplank's Q is a castable melee autoattack with 625 range.