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Adcs and below 50% hp passives

itsChoudhry··3 votes·579 views

Hey I was looking at the items and I started building guinsoo's rage blade of my on hit jungle tf and it's good really good. It got me thinking Why is this mechanics not more present? I'm not saying "hey programmers Y U NO DO DIS" I understand developing new items is hard because how it might work with other items and who might build it that shouldn't(runeglaive ezreal I SAID NOTHING) and so on. Adc's builds are kinda stale right now too their not as versitile as bruiser/tanks or junglers or aps or supports. Maybe using this hp passive could help spice adcs up and giving RNG a back seat on the adc role would be a nice change for high elo or competitive. a skill based crit would be good (e.g. head shot is fps games not sure is league could ever have one), but this rng based crit shouldn't be such a core stat like it is right now as its bad for a competitive game. I wanna see adcs having more items based around the enemy comp. Sure you could argue lw vs tanks but most people build it anyway its so cost efficient.

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Vogie3 votes

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I mean, on a certain level, YES - If an ADC doesn't build a major lifesteal item, they are going to be at or below 50% health during a teamfight. So, theoretically that does make sense.

In reality, there is already an item for when a Marksman is at less than 50% health and wants to continue fighting. It's item 3026 . I could see a similar item falling into a slot like item 3139 or item 3157 where it's item 1038 plus item 1031

itsChoudhry1 votes

i wasnt saying it has to be like guinsoo I just think adcs should be crit based and guinsoo's passives are uniqie and has under used type of functions

LilxPaprika2 votes

They kind of have the opposite with item 3072 since it gives them shield at start of fight. Which is as effective if not more. Rageblade more aimed at fighters who are less likely to get deleted shot if low. So they can make most use out of it. Paired with say item 3156
I do think rageblade should be seen more on ADCs. Like MF, ez, Lucian, varus, kog, I don't see anything wrong with that. Adc builds are pretty boring atm anyways.

Imo they need to give ER more lifesteal... Tiny bit less DMG CDR is helpful to have their escape tool up bit more.

Everyone wants pure damage on ADCs they've forgotten that they can actually carry more with bit more survivability. You can do with say 10 less ad on essence reaver. 70 ad, 16% lifesteal. Plus with item 3050 , damage should be least of your worries. Now that there's no more lifesteal Zeke. We can afford to replace some ad with lifesteal bit more.

posted this while back hope this helps suggestion: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EpmIKqEr-grand-vamp-scepter-idea-primarily-for-bt

also relevant to lifesteal in general:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/i4xybTuI-lifesteal-adjustments-slightly-less-from-wrath-elixir-and-more-accessible-elsewhere

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zlBE0QIR-adc-population-beginning-to-dwindle-teambuilder

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I think and AD only equivalent would guarantee winning any 1v1 duel. Imagine Vayne with an AD Guinsoo's...

itsChoudhry1 votes

I'm not saying vayne should have a ad guinsoo's rageblade im saying adc needs to get fixed or re vamped like the other lanes did. People can now choose what kind of support, mage, tank and assassin they wanna build. ADCS are just are you kalista? no then build ie and may the rng be with you. It pushes skill back, think about how many times you in a 2 v 2 your support does the right thing you as a adc do the right thing but don't crit the enemy adc critted 3 times in a row and that is considered skil? I brought up guinsoo cause of the unique passive it has its the only item that buffs inself based on your hp. Even triforce adcs build ie ADCs rely on rng too much.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Ya I said an "AD version of Guinsoo's", not Guinsoo's.

itsChoudhry1 votes

thats what i meant i just said guinsoo assuming we were on the same page

ZephyrDrake1 votes

the last thing you want as an ADC is to have your HP be 50% or below since that means you will blow up by the slightest of things. You would need to make the ability/item so broken for it to be worth being that low and item 3124 is just bad there are so many better items you could be using in it's place that i bet would make TF jungle even better

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