i cant...
she is way to weak currently :-( the new jungle item runglaive is bad for her , she needs some tankiness. even with the upcomming buffs to it wont solve elise s problems ... patch 5.12 by far the worst patch for elise and no changes for her in 5.13... another month elise being the worst jungler -.-
Lmfao, oh my god. You can't be serious about any statement in this topic.
I agree that Runeglaive is quite underwhelming on Elise, so I solved that problem and got Cinderhulk instead. Doesn't help mana though.
You can win games with her.. but you generally have to perform way better on her than if you just picked another champion...
Statistically, she is pretty much the worst primary role jungler on the list. I can't think of one jungler that is worst then her.
me to my man your suppsoed to combo like this ewq or eqw then ult then e then w or q. becuase the basics actually do a shyt ton of damage
They should just make her into a top lanner again and take her out of the jungle if they cannot balance her there.
Going to piss a lot of people off by doing this. But they're pissing them off as it is.
i cant...
she is way to weak currently :-( the new jungle item runglaive is bad for her , she needs some tankiness. even with the upcomming buffs to it wont solve elise s problems ... patch 5.12 by far the worst patch for elise and no changes for her in 5.13... another month elise being the worst jungler -.-
Players often choose to build Cinderhulk on Elise. But I don't think this is because Runeglaive is "bad" for Elise and Cinderhulk is "good" for Elise. I think it is because Cinderhulk is better than Runeglaive on almost any champion you play in the jungle.
The shoutcasters for the LCS talked jovially (this is before pre-Runeglaive) about players who simply built Cinderhulk on their champions even though they weren't playing tanks. If you watch LCS, when was the last time a jungler took anything besides Cinderhulk?
I would also say, Runeglaive isn't bad for Elise so much as Magus was simply better for her and again this is true for almost every champion that would make that choice. Magus placed the emphasis on Elise cycling through her abilities quickly (20% cooldown). With Runeglaive, you need to focus on weaving your autoattacks into her combos. This makes Elise harder to play optimally. When was Lichbane last in Elise's core item builds?
I agree by the way that buffing the AP on Runeglaive doesn't particularly help Elise. It seems like a change focused at other AP champions and also more so done because Runeglaive as an item is perceived as being weak (since it doesn't fill hole left by the removal of Magus).
If I were RIOT, I would seriously question why they removed Magus.
I disagree that patch 5.12 is the worst patch for Elise. I think the worst patch for Elise is one that caused the only Elise player left in the LCS to stop playing her after all the other pro-LCS junglers had already dropped her from a previous nerf the patch before. That was the worst patch for Elise ever and the patch that caused me to stop playing her even though she was my favorite champion at the time. A lot has changed since then in terms of meta and items and stuff. And I think that Elise players (including many who had stopped playing her and wanted to try her out again recently) haven't adapted yet to all the changes up to and including patch 5.12.
For example, none of the top five most popular Mastery pages for Elise are optimized for Runeglaive. That is to say, they don't take the Spellweaving masteries. While you might say that alone isn't enough to sink the boat, the point is that if Elise players fail to adapt to the patch, then their play can't be taken as representing "The Spider Queen's" true potential. There is barely a credible guide detailing how to optimize Elise properly right now.
Elise isn't some "spin to win" champion. She has a complex kit.
