Ekko 5.11

the 2pacolypse··3 votes·835 views

PLEASE tell me there will be some form of ekkoEkko nerfs patch 5.11. Insane ap ratios and burst, mobility, ult that has utility, damage, and healing, and w has an aoe 2.5 sec stun and massive shield at RANK 1. I realize we want good sales but this champ is actually broken.

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Nilok1 votes

You forgot the mention that the ult has no cost.

Marthian1 votes

So far there are none. His ratios need dramatically reduced, his mobility needs hit HARD or his passive needs that slow GONE. His W needs a bigger window of counterplay as well (it never shows up until too late) Edit: Also he needs his slows dramatically reduced if not deleted. There is absolutely no reason an extremely mobile assassin should have so many slows. (thematics is a horrible way to balance the game.)

1000angrybees1 votes

Things I disliked about playing against Ekko after several games:

  • His Q seems generally fair enough, being very slow to withdraw back. I dont think it should have a 1.0 ratio, maybe lower it to .85~ or something though. Ridiculously good in teamfights, too. (edit: was corrected about his Q's values)
  • Lower movement speed to 340. Sounds reasonable. If someone like Ahri has 330 (lux's ms) it's reasonable to lower his a little too.
  • Passive I'm not sure of. Diana has a very high passive with 3 stacks, so I'm not totally against it.
  • The stun time is insane for melee champs vs him. maybe lower it a bit. Also, giving him a near riven strength shield? well alright then.
  • Phase dive seems alright to me. Gives a small dash and has to have an enemy within distance to teleport to. Not too much damage on that either.
  • The ult. Oh god. Who the hell thought of giving him a 1.3 ratio with 200/350/500 base damage AOE point blank near instant ult, putting a heal on it and with NO mana cost? That shit is wack. Needs to be reduced to at least 1.0. At the very fucking least. Come on.
IcyPepper1 votes

I agree that his ultimate needs a mana cost. I think Ekko is fine in terms of counterplay (but his numbers need some tweaking, a little more visual clarity on his W and how his ghost interacts with the fog of war) but I'm tired of 0 mana cost ultimates. Champions who use energy, I get. But 0 cost mana encourages "Your ultimate will always save you!" mentality Leblanc instead of being a man/woman with a plan and doing your thing while properly managing your resources.

1000angrybees1 votes

Leblanc not even having half the average mana cost (50 mana? that's not even asking for a lot Riot) always bugged the shit out of me. Why the hell do assassins keep having zero costs on their ults? jesus christ, even with Ahri's 3 fucking dashes it costs 100 mana, and she does NOT have the best mana pool or regen.

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

q has 0.8 ratio .2 on hit and 0.6 on way back

ekko ults dose less damage then 2 stndra qs and ez ult dose 350/500/650 0.9 damage and its global and dose not require then enemy to have been where you was 4 sec ago.

1000angrybees1 votes

Oh! excuse me, I was mistaken. I thought it was .8 on the way back. Thanks for correcting me. I guess I'm alright with that then?

Trash MammaI1 votes

These ekko complaints are hilarious. I don't even care for him much so giving him a nerf wont bother me but people whining is so laughable.

The guy is banned in just about every draft game I go in so i'm going to assume within the time he's been out nobody has enough experience against him.

Every single skill he has can be dodged easily (except his E's point and click AA in which you can easily wait that out)

If you're being hit by his W at all it's because you're too lazy to move around and just stand still all game..honestly there's no reason to be hit by that without a serious outplay

Same thing for his ult, if you get hit by that thing's damage it's seriously your fault. You see where it is and what path it'll take, you have no reason to be getting hit by that, I agree they should add like a delay on the damage and give an indicator of the zone because it's kinda hard to tell how big it is. Other than that it's fine. Note:Honestly I thought his ult would reset his hp/mana back to the amount he had at that exact point in time..not heal him, but whatever

He is NOT a mage. He is an ASSASSIN. Yes, he's going to burst you squishy as sh*t adcs who don't know what a defensive item is. Yes, you other mages/assassins mid lane who only think about killing and don't realize you have no mr/armor until it's too late he's going to assassinate you.

Ekko requires a set up/outplay/timing etc. to work well. As apposed to leblanc who has a billion blinks or zed who can R E Q R and pop a squishy with little to no effort and do the same thing in a few seconds.

Ekko does what an assassin is supposed to do. Assassins have always been known to set up their plan. Wait for the right moment to execute it. Go in. Assassinate their target. Then vanish before anybody notices. In League's case assassins go in and assasinate a squishy before retaliation.

Tl;dr Ekko is perfectly fine, stop banning the guy in every single game and start playing against him so you can realize how to beat him and who to play against him

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Only his ult has good Ap ratio... His passive is worse than the passives of Diana, Jax, Gnar, Vayne, Vi. His Q is dodgeable (esp. on the way back)... His laning is bad - his only good lvl for all-in is lvl 1 and can kill you lvl 2, if he gets it first, but most champion get access to more dmg than him after. Then you can die lvl 6, if you do something stupid like dive. His best way to snowball is from ganks mid and botlane. He goes oom fast, if he spams, has no sustain, gets destroyed by almost everyone who is not so bad not to dodge his harass. His lategame is also quite weak in high elo where people don't get caught and everyone wards. To use ult, he needs a setup and can only poke with Q - if you go in, you will probably be cced and instabursted by the enemy long range mages. He is only super strong midgame, if you feed him, and lategame, if you don't know how to position vs assasins. Bronze/ Silver players complaining about him... man, in that ELO even ADC Nunu or Taric can work, Fiora and Kata are permabans, people can't cs, everyone feeds and gets caught...

Lost In Time1 votes

Sigh.

Yes, if you only look at Ekko's numbers, he's is OP.

However, in practice, they're not ; he's the only assassin and one of the only champions who has to work far too hard to pull off the stunts and damage.

The only nerf I'd think would be appropriate would be to his passive. Hit it harder early and keep it the same/tap it lightly late. All his other damage is easy to work around and justified if you let him get away with it.

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