Too many toplane complainers but I agree with them

Remilia is Male·12/22/2019, 11:23:34 PM·23 votes·11,980 views

Nice riot, you really think about your next move over and over, make an champion top lane who shred tanks, but nobody plays them. Whenever I want to pick them I will need to ban that champion just because there will be no chance I can outplay his 100 to 0 kit against tanks.

Even if toplane is full of range counters who are lane bullys and can also carry, especially ranged ones. To lane against Vayne bot is my favorite, I almost always dumbster them, but Vayne toplane is absolutely monster bcs she will level faster.

Have you ever considered changing the meta by making an neutralizator for toplane ranged champions instead of killing tanks even more with your "nono tanks aren't fun at all in Pro play" philosophy.

I really don't like people complaining about toplane over and over, but this is too much you literally want to delete an entire gutted class even more instead of fixing your players' main problem.

48 Comments

Caretaker Jack12/23/2019, 3:31:27 AM5 votes

A tank should dumpster her with ganks, but it seldom works out that way.

DuskDaUmbreon12/23/2019, 3:42:03 AM4 votes

but Vayne toplane is absolutely monster bcs she will level faster.

She levels faster...And that's about it. She dies to every gank, dies if the enemy toplaner can jump on her and has damage, and completely fucks her teamcomp, since there's now very high odds they have no durable champion.

If your jungler was too dumb to pick up the free gold, you probably weren't going to win that game anyway, since you had a useless sack of flesh rather than a jungler. It's like a jungler that doesn't invade a Nasus jg, or a mid that doesn't play safe for the first couple minutes against a Twitch jg. They're too much of a dumbass for you to have a chance.

Risk of Fate12/23/2019, 2:25:47 PM3 votes

Top laners are the type of people who would cry that blocking in a fighting game is unfair, that sniper rifles and camping in an FPS is unfair, and that type differences in Pokemon are unfair. They want the game played their way which is anything that isn't someone elses.

If ranged top laners are dominating, why don't they play a ranged top laner? "Nonono, top lanes are for bruisers and melees and skill..." yeah, that's some BS right there. Like those who still play a game they despise, they won't change and it is their fault, not to say their complaints have no merit, but have they actually tried to counter range with range?

No?

I'm not saying how you should play, but realize that if something is bad and something is good, why are you dead set on proving that bad is better than what is OBJECTIVELY superior? I used to hate metas yet have gotten a bit more used to the fact that what is fun and what is strong are two very different ideas. In a competitive game, you want to take any and all advantages you can take. By refusing to accept it, there's nobody's fault except their own should they continue to stay stuck in a rut of their own undoing.

Mid lane meta changes, jungle sometimes changes, bot and support has changed, yet top lane has to be immune from any simply because it's a haven of people who hate magic, range, and burst? How is that fair logic?

Besides that, they whine about no tanks as well as complaining that there are tanks, you literally cannot make them happy at all unless the other two lanes are removed and the only viable champs are melee fightters with no abilities that provide a bonus (attack speed buff, armor break, animation cancels, etc.)

TL;DR - play a ranged top lane champion, make Lucian / Kai'Sa, hell even Kalista viable. All you need to do is make either mid or bot lane tankier. Don't take this as legit advice, just tossing an idea out there as I'm not anywhere near qualified to make strategic decisions based on no foreknowledge.

Beacon Academy12/23/2019, 3:44:34 AM3 votes

4 / 6.5 / 9 / 11.5 / 14% ((-0.5%)(Per 100 target's max Health over player's max health)) of target's maximum health to a minimum of (blank)%

If true damage is just gonna negate armor anyways, at least make it so health stacking actually helps :/

FCJAAAAGOOOO12/23/2019, 5:01:36 AM2 votes

There are a lot of seriously lopsided top lane situations that are possible rn.

But an equal number of mid, bot and jg sitations. Really any one player can be the majority reason for a throw. I've seen Cait bot, Kass mid, Noct jg and Quinn top all single-handedly carry games because they were simply fed. Conqueror is a pretty toxic rune for soloQ if we're being honest.

xHeimtechZX12/24/2019, 4:56:51 AM1 votes

I don't really care about range top laners. I tend to do well in lane against them. I just rather play into melee. I'll still use my melee champions and sometimes Heimerdinger and Teemo, but I just don't care about playing Marksmen. The problem is it seems a lot of champions is only played in top. My fun champion Darius only gets played in top, fun fun. I can play Heimerdinger in every lane. I should pick up Viktor again and try him top lane. Viktor's pick rate is just bad in general, but his pick rate in top is more than Darius' pick rate anywhere else lol. Should we be playing these Top champions in other lanes? But then Gbay99 says that top laners get stolen by junglers, so it might end up they move away from top :( Someone always points out when I play Darius support with my friend. I soak up damage, I get all the ignites and survived majority of the time, and I still deal damage so I apply pressure. I can pull and slow. Not saying he's the best support, but it works out for me and my friend. Speaking of playing Darius in other lanes, I follow a Youtube channel that post replays from challenger, master, and grandmaster. I have watched two Darius adc videos with Rakan support. I guess Korea has a much more interesting meta? Garen adc seem to have gotten nerfed. It was fun while it lasted for Garen to have a bit of competitive scene. Do top laners really complain that much or is it just a Hashinshin effect?

Waka FIocka1/1/2020, 4:23:42 AM1 votes

i never rly understood the "lack of agency" issue toplaners bring up regarding their lane... i see it A LOT too. jungle ganks top and already someone topside is complaining in all chat about how they just want to 1v1. swap drake with herald/baron for 1 week & i guarantee you they will all storm the forums demanding a revert.

also really every lane is wild. you see sona + xerath botlane, leona + pantheon .... mid lane you see jhin, soraka, pantheon, etc. every lane can be random and toplane isnt the only one with matchup problems. Imagine they suddenly have to worry about mid/jg roaming up there every 4 minutes for drake on top of their sad little matchup problems. Hell at least they aren't 3-4 levels under everyone else in the game.