Long Sword Or Doran's Blade?

VirtualAdvance·Nov 27, 2015·1 votes·2,156 views

What would be more effective for fiora mid/top ? I always bought the long sword but I see other people using Doran's Blade, so which is better or is it based on the champion? v s

10 Comments

LadyRenlyNov 27, 20152 votes

long sword gives what, 2 extra damage? Big whoop. I would only justify longsword is if you wanna rush something

Weiner the PoohNov 27, 20151 votes

or if you want more potions, which is why i start long sword.

BonipherusNov 28, 20152 votes

Longsword start is better. With Doran's you have to hold on to it for a long time to make up for gold you sacrifice for that little bit of sustain. The % lifesteal doesn't even really do much until you get more damage to make it work as a good sustain option... and as an early game sustain option it is far outclassed by health potions because of this. You get more bully potential out of longsword and pots due to the higher ad and potions. Longsword start also lets you get the refillable potion at the start of the game if you think you need it or want the corrupting potion for lane dominance. Also you are essentially 750 gold ahead going toward your final build by starting longsword (assuming longsword works as a component into a final build item) compared to starting d-blade.

Edit: Why the downvotes? Do you people really think dorans gives better early sustain or something? Do you not understand opportunity cost or do you just not understand numbers?

Old Man TeetoNov 28, 20152 votes

Is the enemy laner incompetent?

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Is the enemy laner competent?

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Are you both incompetent?

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Sire HippingtonNov 28, 20152 votes

Longsowrd Scales a bit better into late and gives more sustain for the early lane(till first back usually). Dorans gives a better early all-in due to the health, and scales well into mid, especially if you get a second one. It also gives more sustain after some time, as the constant 3% lifesteal sooner or later catches up to the 2 aditional pots, after dealing a total of 1k damage with AAs to be precise. Getting 2 dorans early really can give you an edge in close matchups. If you are very confident in your laneing or think you have an easy matchup, Longsword is better, as it allows to finish core items faster.

VirtualAdvanceNov 28, 20151 votes

So what for fiora?

l Helios lNov 28, 20151 votes

D. Blade 100%

VirtualAdvanceNov 28, 20151 votes

Yeah I saw a bunch of people use doran's but with her passive she can get a bunch of health back and trade well, so why would doran's be good on fiora?

l Helios lNov 28, 20151 votes

The difference in ad isn't that significant. If you're winning a trade, you're winning it handily in most cases. Fiora as a whole isn't a prolonged sustain damage champion. She's much more "burst" focused. Her focus is on vitals, so proc one or two and get out. Small opportunities in which sustain determines that match up. Keep in mind the life steal of d blade works on minions too, and if your running feast and the life steal mastery, you're getting a lot of life back just for csing. If your opponent has the same masteries and a d blade, he can match the sustain to a degree, but Fiora has passive sustain as well. Now, if you don't have a d blade, you can't sustain as well, and the more you back to heal, the worse your lane will be. Also consider the sheer amount of sustain most top laners have: Darius Q, Gangplank W, Maokai passive, Tryndamere Q, Illaoi Q passive, etc. Your sustain isn't much compared to that (it isn't much in its own right tbh), so you need to be able to match their sustain. Your goal should be to sustain in lane and cs well so you can all in your laner with a phage at 6 or 7. Just my 2 cents.