5.24 is embarrassing.

jFuji··3 votes·536 views

What information exactly does Riot use in order to make these balance decisions? I'm left confused.

Nidalee

Why is this champion getting buffed? Because she has a low win rate? Take a look at her win rate by elo. Her winrate is garbage in bronze - gold. Notice how it goes up by each elo. Look at her masters winrate of 55%. This is no weak champion in the hands of people who understand how to play her/can land skillshots.

Riven

Why is this champion getting buffed? Her winrate is going up every week as riven players learn to adjust to the new masteries and new build. High elo players have ditched the ravenous build and go for a tytanic/frozen mallet/cleaver build. Why not give it time instead of jumping the gun and handing out a buff?

Hecarim

This champion is not overpowered. I don't think anyone complains about him either. The health changes were unnecessary. The other changes were understandable after reading the context of the nerf.

**Swain **

This champion is not oppressive at all. He is one the old champions that still has counterplay. It's very simple. He has a slow base MS, along with no mobility skills. Very easy to gank. Laning? His W is delayed, has a long cooldown and a high mana cost and by the way is very easy to predict/step out of. The fact the first meaningful change you are going to make to swain in over 3 years is a nerf, is laughable in of itself.

Dr. Mundo/Tahm Kench/Malphite

Good to see these mega tanks will still be dominating the game. Oh but you nerfed dead man's plate! Funny thing is none of them generally build it until later in the game. Only one I can think of who builds it early enough to impact this snowballfest game is Darius.

I will give credit where credit is due however. Riot made good changes to the masteries like veteran scars and precision, with some solid nerfs to champions like Quinn and Soraka. Creep block is fixed as well, thankfully. Though a lot of the rest is really poor.

8 Comments

Meep Man3 votes

Nidalee By that logic I should just nerf Skarner and Nunu because Skarner has an 80% win rate in Master and Challenger! Why? BECAUSE THAT PLAYER POOL IS TINY!

Riven Wow, them buffs. To be honest, she kind... needed it? I think most people will disagree with me here just because this is Riven.

Hecarim He is pretty dominant in the Top Lane whenever he is played right now. Hitting the sleepers or less commonly played isnt a crime.

Swain Ok look, Swain needed this. Anyone who has been against a Swain would know this. Why? His E amplifies all of the mastery changes by 20% and also synergizes with them itself. His R ALSO synergizes with the general buff to self-healing this Season.

The Tanks Dr. Mundo got a pretty big hit this patch and Tahm Kench also got nerfed. Malphite is just a little bit dominant as people are still picking full AD compositions.

Overall good patch.

Anihaku1 votes

I agree with you on 5.24 not being ideal IMO. I assume the nidalee change is to prep the challenger skin comin in January. What I have an issue with is the SEVERAL nerfs to Soraka. Did she need to be tweaked a bit, sure.....but not that heavily. I'm curious to see how she does once the patch lands. It's just funny to me that she got gutted so hard where as other champs who probably need it didn't.

On a side note..... they did make some good changes like you mentioned above about creep block

Cibreca1 votes

Soraka was annoying. She needed to be gutted.

Anihaku1 votes

Sadly for me.......most Summoners agree with you. I'm just worried because I'm sure there are other nerfs in the works for her. I'm really curious to see how the ap JG items changes the JG meta. I wonder which ap JG will be the best.

Cibreca1 votes

I actually only played one recent game with a Soraka.

I was Urgot and my friend was Sona.

We were against a Kallista and a Soraka.

Despite surprisingly winning the lane, to the point where Kallista had 0 kills in the whole game, we lost: Soraka.

Soraka is possibly the only supp which you actually target first.

She's too good at healing her team. It's not even funny. She can take her teammates from '0-100 real quick.'

Anihaku2 votes

She can be quite the nuisance I will admit.......I tend to focus her first when playing against her too. I can't tell you how many times I would hear "why are you attacking the support, harass the ADC"

..........because it's Soraka O.o

Bondage Bunnyboy1 votes

I don't find Malphite too annoying, but Mundo is absolutely dreadful to deal with... he makes me want to quit League every time I face him. If you don't have a good enough combination of high damage+CC he's going to just walk up and facefuck you, and leave as soon as you might kill him...

Cibreca1 votes

Of all the champs to buff... Riven.

Resourceless low-cooldown two-CC high-damage Riven . . ..

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