I know they were never meta, but manaless AP junglers will have no viable build path

Zimsky·Jun 13, 2015·2 votes·1,327 views

While they were never really meta, Jungle Akali, Rumble, and Kat were niche picks and viable in certain situations because Magus didn't have mana or mana regen attached to it. With the removal of magus and the addition of runeglave, they will be completely unviable and have no build path. Now their AP jungle item would be incredibly gold inefficient on them, which is the opposite of what the jungle item should be.

18 Comments

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 13, 20152 votes

can always get cinderhulk on anyone

BlackquillJun 13, 20151 votes

Except Ekko. Cinderhulk Tankko is basically the fancy way of playing 4v5.

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 13, 20151 votes

even on ekko. like you can get cinderhulk on virtually anyone. especially on someone like ekko who brings tons of cc and catching/baiting power to the team.

BlackquillJun 13, 20151 votes

If you are fine with dealing no damage at all.

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 13, 20151 votes

why would ekko deal less damage with cinderhulk than like nautilus. yeah, right, he doesnt. he still deals more and he still has his passives and his jumps and his cc all while being pretty tanky. also, your second item can still be ludens echo or morello or even just upgrade smite and get your item of choice then, just like many other jungle assassins do.

BlackquillJun 14, 20151 votes

It is just that i see so many pro players going fulltank on Ekko which is very disturbing to watch.

jDVL20eCYsJun 14, 20151 votes

Yes I vomit every time

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 14, 20151 votes

its pretty good as you can see in lcs

BlackquillJun 14, 20151 votes

IWD was the only jungle Tankko who had a win yet and that was presumably not his merit.

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 14, 20151 votes

midlane damage ekko also has like 20% winrate in lcs. probably have to reconsider your world view

BlackquillJun 15, 20151 votes

At least more than jungle Tankko. My point stands.

ÐeliciousJun 14, 20151 votes

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why would ekko deal less damage with cinderhulk than like nautilus. yeah, right, he doesnt. he still deals more and he still has his passives and his jumps and his cc all while being pretty tanky. also, your second item can still be ludens echo or morello or even just upgrade smite and get your item of choice then, just like many other jungle assassins do.

Nautilus has hella base damage :o

ceral4Jun 13, 20152 votes

why are you playing jungle kat and akali

Only Play DariusJun 13, 20151 votes

Akali jg works suprisingly well. Her spellvamp keeps her HP at decent levels and you get to skip her trash laning phase. Once she gets to lvl 6 her ganks are lethal.

disregardableJun 13, 20151 votes

Or you could just not bother upgrading to an enchantment and sell the smite thing late game, which is what I do every single game I jungle. Cinderhulk is the only one of the four even worth getting in the first place.

khorneyJun 13, 20151 votes

Umm why wouldn't they

LankPantsJun 13, 20151 votes

I think Akali's fine with it, she can use her E to proc the spellblade effect as much as she wants.

MLDzXnRRRJun 14, 20151 votes

Jungle Akali and Katarina are troll picks... they need too much gold to get going and bring nothing to their teams. Jungle Sej or Gragas can easily outdamage them + being tank+ lots of cc.