I'd like your thoughts on some theoretical jungle mechanics.
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Introduction to the Post: As you may have gathered from the title, I'm interested in knowing what all of you think about some theoretical (and appropriately vague) jungle mechanics! I'm only one guy, and my friends aren't very cooperative, so I'm turning to the Boards for feedback, with your wealth of game knowledge and opinions (try as you might to bury them all underneath memes and Yasuo hate threads). I've been toying around with some champion concepts, which won't see the light of days for months at least (if they see it at all), so consider these directions I'm looking at, but don't want to jump on without at least trying to understand how they would affect the game:
- What are your thoughts on a mechanic that let a champion get gold and exp from jungle monsters without killing them, but in a completely different vein from Ivern - the jungle creeps were still there, and another champion could still kill them for normal gold/exp?
- If you think that would be the most OP thing since sliced bread, what rules or restrictions can you think of to put on such a mechanic to make it not ruin ranked for the next 6 months?
- Expanding on this question, what other mechanics would be interesting choices to support a dedicated Double Jungle strategy? What types of champions would you imagine them working well on?
- How about a mechanic that allowed a champion to clear jungle camps in a set amount of time? I know this one would affect how predictable the jungler's clear is, but I'm not sure if it would be 100% guaranteed crippling at high ELO, or a valid mind game. Ivern's passive is definitely a version of this, where the problem of predictability was solved by letting him go around and do whatever for most of the time he needs to take a camp.
- Once again, what rules or restrictions would you add to the mechanic to make it not a terrible idea?
- Did any of the above make you think of the Next Big Thing in the jungle, but you're worried that because it's not related to one of my questions I might lynch you if you comment it below? Fear not, internet-dweller! Wheatloaf will
stealaccept all responses with open arms! I'm only one man, after all, and I guarantee you I've forgotten at least 15 things I wanted to say just in this post! I can't come up with all of the interesting things ever, or even remember all the ones I do come up with, so every little bit helps, and there are no stupid comments (and just because I said that I expect at least one of you to try. Go ahead. Come at me).
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