first time in ranked against almost all silver players.

REKT Pain Stain·Feb 5, 2016·1 votes·1,503 views

so i hit level 30 and went right into ranked. it placed me as title states with 4 silvers and 1 bronze. this was with solo que. needless to say i didnt do the greatest. i didnt do TERRIBLE but i didnt do good. 4/6/10 or something like that. then i duo que with a bronze 5 player and i got faced against much lower ranked people. almost all bronze. i herd that your ranking placement doesnt go by your wins and loss completely but by mmr as well. is it a good or bad thing that im placing with silvers 1-3? is it a bad thing to duo que with a bronze 5? i did substantially better when duo que'd but i dont know how everything works. i dont want to get stuck in bronze 5 is all. thanks for your replies and help everyone!!! :)

5 Comments

Miku Lv99Feb 5, 20161 votes

You do lose some MMR for duoing with someone lower than you. Otherwise, all that matters is winning and losing, the other stats do not change anything of significance. You'll get a rating of about how good of players you're playing against when you solo queue.

REKT Pain StainFeb 5, 20161 votes

ok cool! thanks for the reply. i played 3 out of my 10 and lost all three. to be honest it seemed completely unfair. the players on my team and enemy team were much more knowledgeable in the game then me. i asked my friends that play league and they say its some kind of trial to make sure im not a smurf, and if i continue to play in ranked im going to get stepped on and loose every match. i thought mmr (match making rating) would place me with people of my same skill level but its not doing that at all. now theoretically if i loose all 10 matches i get placed bronze 5, if i loose 9 i get bronze 4, if i loose 8 i get bronze 3 ect... is that how i get placed? elo and mmr have no effect on my placement? if that is the case i feel like im getting robbed by being placed with players that are much better then me. when i draft pick i USUALLY do pretty good. lots of kills small amounts of deaths, while my ENTIRE team feeds all enemy champions. im just not sure how to approach ranked at this point. i heard about a diamond player purposely putting himself in bronze 5 and it took him 90 matches to climb to bronze 4, and i am not trying to to get myself in bronze 5 because mmr is trolling me.

Sona PingFeb 5, 20162 votes

i asked my friends that play league and they say its some kind of trial to make sure im not a smurf, and if i continue to play in ranked im going to get stepped on and loose every match.

The response to all the "My friends said X" things that get passed around is the same as what it was in the schoolyard when they gave you "health" advice. That is: "Your friends are idiots; don't ever listen to them."

That's not how placements work at all. To save you a half hour looking for youtube videos explaining ranked, I'll give you the short version. You have an MMR, it's the rating of how well you have been playing: who you lose to, who you win against, etc. When you go into ranked, you do your "placement games" which are really just your first ten games of ranked. If you lose, your MMR goes down a bit. If you win, your MMR goes up a bit. After ten matches, you get a tier and division that is representative of this. You, having not played ranked before, are a bit of a blank card, so your MMR got bumped a bit up towards the average, so you got a bit outmatched. After playing more, you will settle down into more even games. This:

now theoretically if i loose all 10 matches i get placed bronze 5, if i loose 9 i get bronze 4, if i loose 8 i get bronze 3 ect...

This is not how it works at all. People can and have lost the majority of their placement games and get placed into Gold or Platinum because the win/loss ratio is not the sole determining factor of placements; it's a modifier.

heard about a diamond player purposely putting himself in bronze 5 and it took him 90 matches to climb to bronze 4,

That's bullshit. Plain and simple. What this is, is a story that get passed around by bad players to justify their beliefs that they aren't bad and it's all their "feeding teammates" fault they have the rank that they do and that ranked is all based on luck. It's an idea that has been proven to be false a hundred times over, not just by simple reason, not just by boosters, but also by the hundreds of "Bronze-to-Diamond" or "Unranked to Diamond" series and their like where players go from the lowest ranks to the top. Anyone can simply watch these for themselves.

REKT Pain StainFeb 6, 20161 votes

you are the man!!! thanks for all the advice, i will play several more unranked games for now. once im feeling more confident ill head into ranked :D

JbirdsandoFeb 5, 20161 votes

If you jump into ranked right when you hit 30, expect to be pummeled, expect to be placed in b3-b5, because for almost all fresh level 30's, that is your skill level. If you don't want to get stuck in b5, play normals first, become better than b5, and then go play ranked.