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how are people having a hard time climbing in ranked, and blaming it on teammates? Im not buying it.

Sea Slug Menace·5/22/2019, 10:09:09 AM·11 votes·4,694 views

so here was my account before it got banned https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=mystlcflow

gold 4 to d4 in 25 days, 7 winstreak to diamond 4, was on my way to masters :(

here's my current account https://gyazo.com/e45932d9d56f7de54ea826ac391c8d1f

I was bronze 1 15 games ago. now I'm gold 4 already.

I'll also be making a new account next week because of riot's missions giving an extra 300 exp per win, and I have no doubts I'll have over 60% win rate to diamond, even higher because Zac revert coming next patch :D

Guys how is anybody at all who is having trouble climbing, Actually 100% seriously blaming it on team mates or riot's matchmaking, how many unranked to challenger series do they need before they understand that they are the only reason they aren't climbing.

I am not suggesting that you don't work hard in terms of playing games, But I'm trying to tell you, if you grind grind grind grind, you will be stuck the rest of the season, or you will barely make it. people do not hit challenger grinding 300 games, hell they don't even have 300 games. I know, I know "Ouch, ay man whatever you wanna say." IT'S THE TRUTH, grinding games and expecting to get better while blaming teammates isn't going to get you anywhere.

KILL THAT WORKERS MENTALITY. you value effort over execution. for real. I love it, the low elo players, you think that just because you put in 100 hours, even though it was at 70% you think that's the same thing as execution, it's NOT

nobody in my games calls out flash timers, guys the flash timer is 5:00, if your enemy flashes at 5:50 and you aren't typing in the chat, "mid flash 10:50" you aren't even allowed to talk trash about your teammates.

https://gyazo.com/2669f4bc29fff929c541363caf1186f3 look at that image in the right you'll see some green words, if your shit don't say "good vision" you are not allowed to complain. if your shit don't say "high kill participation" you are not allowed to complain. that means you are not even TRYING. it's really not hard to buy 10 control wards a game. IT'S NOT. it doesn't matter what role you're in, if you don't have "good vision" don't even complain about your rank

IF YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING SILVER 2 WHEN YOU DESERVE GOLD 4
shut up, no, really what kind of goal is that? there is no meaningful difference between a silver 2 and a gold 4.

I'm just gonna put a little checklist out here

[ ] I call flash timers in chat, not ping it, but type the time 5 minutes from now [ ] I have "Good vision" on league of graphs [ ] I have over 60% kill participation average each game [ ] I gank other lanes at least once every 5 minutes [ ] I help my jungler do scuttle crab [ ] I have "Good crowd control" on league of graphs [ ] I have "good Cser" on league of graphs [ ] I use a site to track how well I'm doing [ ] I do rift herald every game / I don't forget about it and have it de spawn at 19:40 [ ] I look at the enemy to decide what boots I'm buying / general item optimization [ ] I ping for my team to do dragon [ ] do you get MVP/ACE on op.gg over 50% of your games? [ ] do you know where the enemy jungler is most of the time? (no, no you god damn don't, you don't know anything about jungle paths or where you last saw reksai, you don't know if they are top side or bot side, you don't even have the "good vision" on league of graphs how are you gonna know that. [ ] I try to invade every single game

if you're not trying to invade every single game, I damn well know you aren't proactive, and you don't take any risks in games.

YOU'RE UN DISCIPLINED

the individual games don't matter, I don't care that you can show me a game where you got MVP, "it's not about the intensity, it's about consistency, if you only go to the dentist twice a year your teeth will fall out, you have to brush them every day"

climbing is an accumulation of lots and LOTS of little things, that any one of them by themselves is useless and unseen, you probably look at invading every game and say, "that won't win games" you're absolutely right, 1-3 kills is not going to make or break a game, but if you do it consistently, and you do it with lots of other things, like getting rift herald every game, every game that it de spawns at 20:00 and no team got it, you've failed, sure what's buying an extra ward gonna do? they're just gonna kill it and get 30 gp, yeah you're absolutely right. but hey at least while they're killing it, you can go do an objective on the other side of the map, at least it gave you some vision.

What's one gank every 5 minutes? well it's a free flash/kill, and the better you get at it, the more confident you become as Zac support I'm ganking mid like every 2 minutes, I'm walking up to river and into their jungle just to use my champion as vision, my jungler just did raptors and is heading top? I tell him, that he's getting this scuttle by dragon right now. and help him do it

here's a guide specifically for supports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2i9xB5qqcE

AND PLEASE, OH GOD STOP WARDING THAT FUCKING RIVER BUSH. I don't even take wards on zac, I take red trinket, I usually stand in that river bush to get vision, or I'm out ganking mid and watching for the enemy jungler doing scuttle

never ward the god damn tri bush if you have a full sight stone ready, you better be walking up to the enemies raptors, then to their red buff, and a ward in the river bush by mid lane

Look basically, improve yourself, there are 10000 million little things you can improve, stop trying to climb by only 3 ranks, you better be aiming for diamond, I don't care if you're iron

and for those people who have a diamond account but have another stuck in gold, you got lucky, and aren't pro active enough to carry.

47 Comments

Thingamajig5/22/2019, 10:38:16 AM5 votes

the basics of the game are only good on challenger players even in pro play it's 95% basics that determine a win or loss

there are way too many basics and people void a lot of them in favor of others

hashinshin for instance has 0 map awareness and team fight knowledge but has focused everything on skirmishing and splitting and he gets high elo because he is really good at those and in most games junglers don't take advantage that he doesn't play with junglers in mind but once he gets to an elo where junglers do care about that he starts losing and thats why he barely ever gets to any considerably high elo because he lacks the basics to do so

Saezio5/22/2019, 7:37:28 PM4 votes

Well, OP I think the only part you missed out was

STOP PLAYING 50 CHAMPIONS/4LANES in ranked. Focus on 1-3 champs and perfect them before even trying to rank.

Great post otherwise, really informative, but I guess you will get downvotes because people don't like what you have to say

Ahri Baka5/22/2019, 10:04:54 PM2 votes

There is difference between a smurf trying to climb in low elo and a normal player trying to climb.

Jonesybones5/22/2019, 11:44:52 PM2 votes

The thing which is annoying is someone says oh those basics of the game is only good on challangers or diamonds ect. Teammates don't burden diamonds ecetera.

Those challengers and diamond players use to be bronze. They took the exact same advice and applied it. they wanted to improve and learn. They didn't use excuses to hold them back.

nm10105/22/2019, 7:56:33 PM1 votes

This is pretty much what my mentality was when I was playing. I had less than 1k ranked games (over 5 years) played when I first hit diamond. When I made it back to diamond it took ~40 games and 2 weeks to climb from gold 1 75 lp. The thing was I typically played 5 games or less a day, I never played if I didn't feel like it, and I had a specific strategy/something to improve on in mind when I was playing.

People need to figure out that quality games > quantity of games

Myrmiron5/22/2019, 10:50:05 AM1 votes

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[ ] I have "Good crowd control" on league of graphs [ ] I have "good Cser" on league of graphs

Wait, where do you find those?

Zardo5/22/2019, 11:31:48 PM1 votes

Got it. I need to farm more as a sona main

Malix Farwin5/23/2019, 2:27:30 AM1 votes

You are playing a new account of course you are going to have an easier time climbing, your MMR isnt locked in.

Bronze GOAT5/23/2019, 1:44:52 AM1 votes

Dude, you're playing Jungle, calm the fuck down. There is no way an ADC is gonna climb that easily. Way too dependent of a role.

Mavëríck5/22/2019, 5:59:30 PM1 votes

OP this is great advice. Are you specifically coming at this from the Jungle position?