That Support item price change is understandable but...

Makimoke·8/7/2018, 9:47:12 PM·42 votes·11,006 views

... if you wanted to limit supports to 2 potions, why put the price at 400 from 350? Before the update I could basically choose between Spellthief + Mana regen item for champs like Nami / Support item + 3 pots for things like Blitz / Support item + 1 potion + 1 control at start for zombie ward champs.

Now all I can do is 2 pots at best, shunning down every other choice you had to start the game? My go to choice for Nami was Spellthief + mana regen item item 1004 , since you had your sustain integrated to your kit, while you had better mana regen than the opposing supp, and needed less gold to get to Frostfang. You sacrifice some of the "no mana heal" the potion provides, but it was still a viable choice that kept my win rate as it was. Now you just can't do anything else than 2 pots. Well, except if I manage to buy supp item only, poke 3 times to get 30 gold and back to take the item to come back and help jg/bot. Which practically never happens.

Now, I get that 3 pots is a little too much, but the same thing could have been done if the items were at 375 instead of 350, while still keeping other options viable for supps.

Other supp mains or even other people, what do you think about these changes? Does it feel as restrictive as it is for me? Or are you not caring at all since you had only 1 build early on?

25 Comments

Salson8/8/2018, 5:37:57 AM8 votes

Well the main reason Supports are so oppressive is Ignite being too strong.

They nerfed pots, which were fine for ages, because they broke the meta they created by overbuffing Ignite. That's a real wtf balance there.

BEK Makadur8/7/2018, 10:35:37 PM5 votes

Seems logic to me.

Nea1048/8/2018, 1:09:04 PM3 votes

It's not "understandable"; it's absurd. Overall damage is absolutely crazy, yet they have already nerfed Heal, shields and tankiness in general. Now they gutted sustain, even more.

This means, mindless bursting in lane has been buffed again. Another job well done :D

Wizard Blaze8/8/2018, 5:42:08 AM2 votes

As one trick Nami main this patch made my experience worst. I used to go item 3301 + item 1006. So far in the start of the game im having problem with health regen.

TitanAnteus8/7/2018, 11:41:57 PM2 votes

3 pots is too much and makes early botlane trades worthless.

Frosted Tips8/7/2018, 10:37:27 PM2 votes

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King Braum8/8/2018, 1:03:37 PM2 votes

I honestly hate the change. there's already a massive problem with each support champion having the same build and playstyle making them a lot less interesting the play and this change only enforces that.

I cant even build spellthiefs with a feacharm for more poke and an early forbidden idol at the risk of being more susceptibel to poke myself. Instead I'm forced to buy potions.

Dorans Pants8/8/2018, 5:01:33 PM2 votes

what?! riot limiting options for support players and forces them down one linear path?!

this..like...never happened before! item 3306 item 3309 item 3312 item 3649 (/sarcasm) [zombie-brand-facepalm]

but seriously, I have gotten used to this crap.

Mokuto Bunshi8/8/2018, 7:41:01 PM1 votes

make it 375 and make bead cost 125?

R0XTAR8/8/2018, 2:17:11 AM1 votes

I hate the price increase. As a support thresh main for a while before i switched to ADC/Sup maining, i would buy spellthiefs, vision ward, and one pot.

Yeah I had to be more cautious cuz of the one pot, but it gave nice vision that would last me almost 9~15 minutes on average. Now its just meh.

rtbf2216514128/8/2018, 2:35:30 AM1 votes

I go control ward and gold income now.

Reaper Soraka8/8/2018, 5:45:00 AM1 votes

on nami and raka I typically go spellthiefs pink ward unless I feel they have enough poke to wear me down equally as fast (Zyra for instance).

Or just gold gen and try to force a mutual back early.

Ulquiorra01238/8/2018, 10:39:56 AM1 votes

I agree, 375 is actually ok. 3 Pots is way too much, however 1 pot and a control ward should be okay in their eyes. Ah well, Rito doesn't think before they do something, look at the jungle changes xD

Norglics8/8/2018, 6:01:37 PM1 votes

it is bs change , removed options from game start , now it is always 2 pots + gold item