I started a new account to try out the new leveling system. Unsure how I feel about it all together so far, but at level 5 it felt far ahead of the old system, not so sure at 11 though. Anyways, I notice on this account I have 3 rune pages. But on my main account here I only have 2. Why is this?
Cycera35 votesraises eyebrow I, too, am curious.
I AM NOT PIRATE28 votesthey should give +1 rune page to old players too,it seems fair to me.
IMaDragonRAR2 votesI would have never known had I not created an account to see how the new leveling system was.
Lord of Math10 votesWait, three rune pages you say? I can gain a new rune page and try again to escape elo hell? I am in.
IMaDragonRAR11 votesYou also get Ashe, Garen, and Brand for leveling to level 3. I don't have Brand on this account myself....
TengenToppaGnar2 votesWhen did this happen? I didn't get 3 rune pages on my "I want to know the NEW New Player Experience" Account
IMaDragonRAR2 votesThe patch after the BE change I believe. Not the one with it. Leveling rewards are Level 1 Ashe, Level 2 Garen, Level 3 Brand. Not sure how the rune pages work, but I have 3 editable ones at level 11.
TengenToppaGnar1 votesHmmm... when did I make that account... pretty sure it was during 7.24 but shortly before 7.24B....
IMaDragonRAR2 votesI created one that I got to 8, around the new changes. Saw Brand as a reward for level 3 that I didn't get. Submitted a ticket. Made anew account. Worth it for brand heh.
Lord of Math1 votesYou also get Ashe, Garen, and Brand for leveling to level 3. I don't have Brand on this account myself....
They changed it so brand is the free mage instead of ryze?
SH Azykan2 votessounds like a good change, brand teaches players more things than ryze does, and also is a lot more consistently balanced.
SpaghettiVase3 votesI don't understand why rune pages aren't free anyways. I guess they don't need to be since you can edit your pages a lot "easier" pregame yet it's still a convoluted system in my opinion.
TheThundersRoar2 votesUh, what's everyone talking about here?
The post is 5 hours old but talking about the old rune pages?
IMaDragonRAR5 votesThey're still called rune pages.
Oxyrotten1 votesThey're still called rune pages.
But they aren't rune pages, they are mastery pages..
IMaDragonRAR8 votesGo to collection, go to... masteries???? nope. Runes.
Potchikir4 votesi like how masteries bought a totally not masteries skin to make more money for rito
Oxyrotten2 votesGo to collection, go to... masteries???? nope. Runes.
But they aren't runes. They are masteries.
IMaDragonRAR8 votesWould you kindly tell me one place in this game where you see the word masteries? Are you dense or trying to be cool? We all get it, the new rune pages are basically the old masteries. But you have to buy rune pages, besides the ones you get. With masteries you 20 pages for free.
Again, tell me where you see the word masteries in the game? Go to collection, go to runes, this is the page you speak of. You're not being funny here. They are now runes. We all know this.
Oxyrotten1 votesRunes were removed from the game (or rather by name they were reworked into universal buffs and selective flat stat buffs). Masteries were reworked into what you see now. Riot just calls them runes so you will buy into it and not know the difference. It's working.
Velzard of Koz3 votesWe all realize this, but it is irrelevant to the topic.
We would be glad If we had 20 free Runepages to actually represent it having the same variety that masteries did, but Riot would probably go bancrupt I they were so generous as to not make people pay If they don't want to spend two eternities grinding a little bit of comfort of not having to change entire page in nearly every champ select.
So it's not happening and we have the two pages we had. His point is new accounts have one free Runepage extra. It's called Runepages so he's calling it Runepage. You then make totally irrelevant point that it is actually masteries, which we all realize, and it was a dick move from Riot to do it so, but most people recognize it as Runes and he's not discussing Rune vs Mastery.
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Oxyrotten1 votes[{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kUOehHoA,comment-id=00040000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-10T23:12:43.416+0000)
We all realize this, but it is irrelevant to the topic.
What's your point? I never replied to the OP, I replied to someone defining rune pages. Therefor the topic is the definition of rune pages.
We would be glad If we had 20 free Runepages to actually represent it having the same variety that masteries did, but Riot would probably go bancrupt I they were so generous as to not make people pay If they don't want to spend two eternities grinding a little bit of comfort of not having to change entire page in nearly every champ select.
That's not even comparable. (old) Rune pages used to serve a purpose because you could only preload them before champ select. New "rune pages" serve no purpose since there are no runes, there are only masteries that can be selected in champ select.
So it's not happening and we have the two pages we had. His point is new accounts have one free Runepage extra. It's called Runepages so he's calling it Runepage. You then make totally irrelevant point that it is actually masteries, which we all realize, and it was a dick move from Riot to do it so, but most people recognize it as Runes and he's not discussing Rune vs Mastery.
Your not following along, please re-read the conversation if your so concerned about staying on topic.
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Velzard of Koz2 votesHe was confused and someone informed him, I made a comment on what was said.
He was confused? About what? He correctly named them Rune pages. It's you who thinks we should use terms that fit your imagination instead of actual names. There are only two confused people in this thread.
What's your point? I never replied to the OP, I replied to someone defining rune pages.
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But they aren't rune pages, they are mastery pages..
literally responding to the OP. And he wasn't defining Rune pages, he just said what they are called. The rest of conversation is you talking to the OP. <Removed by Moderation>
Your not following along, please re-read the conversation if your so concerned about staying on topic.
<Removed by Moderation> It is you who brought the "Runes are really the Masteries so call them Masteries" topic, which is, yet again, absolutely irrelevant to original OP's post.
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Oxyrotten1 votes[{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kUOehHoA,comment-id=0004000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-10T23:56:11.870+0000)
He was confused? About what? He correctly named them Rune pages. It's you who thinks we should use terms that fit your imagination instead of actual names. There are only two confused people in this thread.
<Removed by Moderation> He thought the OP was talking about the old rune system, and someone corrected. <Removed by Moderation>
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literally responding to the OP. And he wasn't defining Rune pages, he just said what they are called. The rest of conversation is you talking to the OP. You should take break from the internet, it makes you very confused.
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He corrected the person, defining them as the new rune pages. <Removed by Moderation>
<Removed by Moderation> It is you who brought the "Runes are really the Masteries so call them Masteries" topic, which is, yet again, absolutely irrelevant to original OP's post.
Your really not helping your case, you keep referring to things that are irrelevant. <Removed by Moderation>
How is ignoring intent of a post and bringing absolutely irrelevant discossuion (in which you get really lost If you lead a discussion with OP and then say you never respoded to him) objectivity?
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DeathProfessor4 votesThe point he is making is that, mastery pages were free and you could create as many as you want, sure there were only 3 trees and you mostly put your points into two. Now there are 5 types and out of which you can put the points into two. Masteries provided stats and effects, similar to these new pages. The only reason they didn't call the new pages Masteries, because mastery pages were free and rune pages were not. So it's to avoid the sub-conscious effect because if they called it masteries they would have had to make them free to avoid displeasure of simple folks. They just say we replaced the old runes with new ones, in actuality they removed old runes and replaced the old masteries with new one's and re-branded them as Runes, so people wouldn't complain about the pages and price.
Durzaka3 votesAnd the actual point is he is being an ass over semantics that he is outright wrong about.
The system has good reason to continue to be called runes over masteries.
Masteries were a talent system. They gave minor bonuses (specifically stats) for each point spent in them, with a major change with each keystone at the bottom.
Runes were similar with each giving minor bonuses, specifically stats.
But the important thing is that it is much cleaner, and makes more senses that the current system be runes, over masteries. The idea of engraving runes is more meaningful than just picking masteries.
Again, its a semantics thing, that Oxyrotten is just wrong about.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesThey renamed them for no reason.
Oxyrotten6 votesThey renamed them so you would accept the changes that were made, changes that only served to hurt the game and cut the steep learning curve for bads, casuals, noobs, and younger kids. It's just a clever marketing ploy, same as their reasoning behind the removal is absolute bullshit that has been disproven so many times before.
In fact the same person (Ghostcrawler) made the same arguments at WoW when he made the exact same changes to WoW, and they lost half their playerbase (7 million players left in the 2 years he worked there before getting fired/coming to Riot) and it was shown that the excuses were bullshit there too.
It's all marketing, Riot only cares about the profits.
TheThundersRoar1 votesYes but we have 4, not 2 or 3.
IMaDragonRAR3 votesAre you talking about the premade pages? A new account can create and save 3 pages, old accounts that bought no pages have 2.
MARSILKS1 votesNo, i have 5 premade pages, and have 4 pages that i can make/edit
Velzard of Koz3 votesBecause you bought two Runepages in old system.
Kokua1 votesBecause it's easier to give new accounts an extra page compared to old accounts. With old accounts, you would either have to come up with eligibility requirements to receive a page, then you would have to distribute it, and then you would have a drawback from people who aren't eligible to receiving it. Otherwise, they would have to raise the limit to include everyone who already had the maximum amount of pages in the old system. Alternatively, they could come up with an option to have a free claimable rune page if you have less than 3 pages. I'm not saying that it's right that new accounts should be given more than old ones, but just listing some possible reasons, which really just boils down to laziness in all honesty. I personally use 9 of my 20 pages, and when it comes down to slight differences, the modifications are normally a single rune change.
IMaDragonRAR3 votesYou don't really need more than 1 or 2, as you can edit them, I am just curious why new accounts get 3 and old accounts are stuck with 2 if they didn't' buy any before.
Kokua1 votesTrue, you don't need more. You can edit them. But you can have more so you don't have to edit them. For someone who plays the same champion set on a regular basis, having a couple pages is no big deal at all. For someone who owns every champion and mostly plays ARAM, it makes a significant difference to be able to have more.
SanKakU1 votesDude what if you get autofilled.
Velzard of Koz1 votesAs he said, you can edit them. Yes, it's pain in the ass and it would be better with 20 free pages, but his point stands.
SanKakU1 votesAnd spend the draft time not communicating. Can't even read their chat IIRC while you're editing your pages.
isolate plz1 votesi have 5 rune pages that i can edit i think its based on level
Velzard of Koz1 votesThis has been said like million times now. You have Runepages tranfered from the old system. You have 2 free Runepages (on old accounts) like you did before, and each Runepage you bought in the old system is tranfered to the new system.
IMaDragonRAR1 votesAlso, new accounts get 3 pages to edit. As far as I can see at level 11.
Kuromatsu1 votesi started back at end s2/ begin s3. when i reached 30 i had 3 rune pages. how old is ur account man!?!!!!
IMaDragonRAR1 votesYou could buy rune pages. You still can. If you have an account that never bought one, you have 2. If you start a new account, at level 11, you have 3.
Why do people not understand this?
Azadethe1 votesFor one thing, you don't actually get "pages" until level 11, so I'm curious where you see 3 pre 11.
ModJikker1 votesHey guys,
I know it's a bit late, but there was a disagreement in this thread that contained various insults that are not permitted. While the disagreement was fine (are the new runes runes or masteries?), some of the talk back and forth was not so I have edited it out. Remember to always be respectful of others and leave any comments related to a person's age, intelligence, or ability to communicate out of your posts. You can make the same point without having to use insults towards others. If you don't understand why I edited these posts, you can read the Universal Rules or come ask us on the Discord.
Thanks
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A mod responds but gives no answers.
If a bear shits in the woods and nobodies around, does it still stink?
ModJikker2 votesA mod responds but gives no answers.
If a bear shits in the woods and nobodies around, does it still stink?
I'm just a volunteer and a player like you -- I'm not a Rioter. I have no clue and can't answer your post. Your guess is as good as mine.
IMaDragonRAR1 votesMy apologies.
IMaDragonRAR1 votesyes you can buy rune pages. Old mastery and rune pages are combined. Old accounts have 2 rune pages, as that is what you get for free. New accounts have 3 rune pages at level 11. Not sure if it's more at level 30.
That is what this post is about.