Tryndamere is a cheap champion

YoungGodMCMXCI·Sep 25, 2019·5 votes·2,090 views

So no matter what Tryndamere i play, no matter how good i'm doing going against him, theres that Ult he does where hes practically untouchable and unkillable. His undying rage is basically just a cheat to either tower dive me at lv. 6, or run away when he knows he can't win. Even if we gank him, theres some casualty he takes with him. I don't know, I'm hoping riot reworks this guy, oh and i hope they change that stupid ability to where if someone is running from him, even if its not intentional, he basically puts fear in you and your slowed down for him to catch up. Its NOT fair that a champ has an undying rage (something thats basically "a scared for your life" tactic) and then has the audacity to scare you.. like rlly bruh?

26 Comments

Jesi OniSep 25, 20193 votes

Pick a champion that can kick him out when he ults ahahah~

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YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20192 votes

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Pick a champion that can kick him out when he ults ahahah~

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sry I only main irelia, im not about to change a whole champ for one champ. You may think its strategic to change a champ for a champ, but it shudn't b dat way.

Dunk and DineSep 26, 20191 votes

Ok he is just a champ that counters you. You can win early but he will outscale thats just how the champ works. Ik alot of people whos champs get countered by irelia hate playing against it as well. Thats just how the game is supposed to work especially in toplane.

Dunk and DineSep 26, 20191 votes

Trynd is just a counter to irelia, you can win early on usuing ur higher auto range and passive to harass him and fight him in large waves to kite and outplay. But he is meant to be an irelia counter which is why you dont like him. Ik alot of people who think ur champ is broken cuz it counters the champs they play. Thats just how the game works.

BrightWîngsSep 25, 20193 votes

his ult isnt even the problem its the fact that if he wins lane he shits on everybody, if he looses lane he splits the entire game and is still a major issue

KeiagaSep 25, 20192 votes

Thats what a splitpusher is. Thats the case with a kot of champions.

BrightWîngsSep 25, 20192 votes

Not nearly on the same level the issue is you can never catch him when he does if a Yorick Nasus is feeding their face off they can just send one guy and kill them no issue trynd literally can not be caught by one person the second someone shows up he can just E away and thats all she wrote hes gone....

KeiagaSep 25, 20192 votes

Nasus' wither is one of the most powerful CC in the game. At 45% cdr there's a single second that it won't be active. on one target. Compared to Trynd's dash that has a pretty hefty cooldown, especially when he's running away and not hitting anything.

BrightWîngsSep 25, 20191 votes

Its really not 12 seconds level 1 with no CDR and trynd gets item 3508 first so that 20% so at level 1 with 20% it will be about 10 seconds he also naturally maxes this second so

At level 2 E w/ 20% CDR its 9 seconds At level 3 E w/ 20% CDR its 8 seconds At level 4 E w/ 20% CDR its 7 seconds At level 5 E w/ 20% CDR its about 6 seconds

This is only with 20% CDR not to mention every time he crits it reduces the cool down by 1 second if its minions 2 if its a champion and if they do some how get on him he will always have R to stall out wasting more of your time and E again and most likely get away.

Nasus W is very strong but the range is also very short and its only really good against people without dashes. Tryndamere Has a low CD dash with a pretty good range of 660. dash is objectively better in this situation.

KeiagaSep 25, 20191 votes

Nasus is a tank with a 35-95% slow that has about one single second of downtime.

Tryndamere is a glass cannon that has a dash that gets reduced cooldown if he stops to hit something and hopefully get a crit. Even with his ult, there's a lot less room for error since he lacks any type of bulk in his normal builds.

Assuming both are being chased by a single champion with high mobility, Tryndamere's best bet is to dash over a wall and even then there's plenty of champs that can follow. There's actually not a single champ that can catch a nasus that doesn't want to be caught.

BrightWîngsSep 25, 20191 votes

trynd literally has an ult that stops him from dying. Nasus again needs to be close to them to even use it if he is feeding odds are hes just gonna die to who ever is there and thats if he is even maxing W second which in a split push scenario not often. Trynd can just dash the very second of danger and get away and again its a really low cool down without him hitting anything.

Not to mention that Tryndamere has a way better chance of killing the enemy who answers his split because of a few things: The items he buys are just raw damage and crit, has an ulti that stops him from dying, very hard to kite, often takes summoner 14 because he doesn't have a bad early.

Nasus is easily kited, if hes feeding means low stacks and not tanky, Needs people to be in his E if he wants to do good damage, his W will only matter if the opponent is someone with low mobility and an AD champion crippling mages does nothing, and if they have summoner 14 item 3123 item 3076 item 3165 well then there goes his healing making him even less tanky.

Tryndamere has less counter play and better from behind he is objectively better when feeding

KeiagaSep 25, 20192 votes

Stay focused, I'm only talking about these two champ's ability to splitpush and escape from a single enemy while behind.

If you're close enough to pose any sort of threat to Nasus, since a long range poke or two deffinitely isn't going to hurt him much, then you're close enough to get slowed. Barring ults like Yi's there's not a single champ at 6 items that can keep up with and kill nasus at 3 items before he has time to walk back to a turret.

Meanwhile, glass cannon trynd will have to pop his ultimate every time someone catches him which means he's a free kill until it's back up. And if he's running, he's not gonna have any time so get crits on anything so his 8 second dash won't be as reliable as a nearly-permanent 35-95% slow.

And then add the fact that tanks and tank items are always better to play and build while behind compared to full damage.

BrightWîngsSep 25, 20191 votes

Yes and we already established trynd was better at that. For it to be a 95% slow he needs to max the ability second which in most cases he does not do making him worse even so trynd can dash with 20% CDR just as often as nasus can W with 45% cdr which is 6 seconds and thats only 20% if trynd has 40% its under 5 seconds. You're just not gonna be able to catch him Quinn Hecarim Rammus Kassadin and maybe Riven sure could but the point here is theres no real counter play to trynd dashing away other than having the right champion with the ability to do so. Which is very few.

Nasus W can be countered with tenacity and item 3009 item 3140 summoner 1

TLDR Nasus has counter play trynd does not making him better in getting away being behind and splitting.

KeiagaSep 25, 20191 votes

Lol. The fact that you want to believe that a champion that can dash over walls is LESS common than a champ who takes cleanse or builds item 3140 specifically for nasus is enough for me.

Or the fact that you think item 3009 makes a tangible difference against Nasus' W.

Or the fact that you think a Tryndamere that's behind can do anything while his ultimate is on cooldown, even with his dash.

There's no reasoning here.

BrightWîngsSep 26, 20191 votes

Pointing out there is counter play to nasus W

Yes a lot of champions can dash over walls but none are gonna go far as far oh and I suppose Talon could too always forget him. But if say Zed or Akali are there zed has to use his shadow which is a longer cool down than trynd E Akali needs to land her E impossible if he's already running away. Jax needs targets to jump to Nidalee Qiyana Fiora Sylas Fizz Dashes are too short Ezreal Lucian Are you AD carries most likely and sending then to deal with a feeding trynd is not a good idea. Ahri ahri only has 3 in which she could but if she does not kill him in the time frame of her ulti tryndwill get away because he can stall out and press R Camille could Zac Will probably die

Tryn ult cool down is very low never said he wasn't really weak if it was not sure why that was brought up

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20192 votes

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Not nearly on the same level the issue is you can never catch him when he does if a is feeding their face off they can just send one guy and kill them no issue trynd literally can not be caught by one person the second someone shows up he can just E away and thats all she wrote hes gone....

Yea bruh the audacity to hav a champ who is practically lusting for combat and instills fear in you with his W ability. Has the same cowardly abilities to avoid death and damage. SMH

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20192 votes

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his ult isnt even the problem its the fact that if he wins lane he shits on everybody, if he looses lane he splits the entire game and is still a major issue

definitely, theres rlly no advantage of being tilted over him if he's jus guna keep undyin and running away.

BitterFeetFungusSep 25, 20192 votes

if you cc him when he ults you can buy time and kill him when it ends even slowing him and running is a big counter

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20191 votes

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if you cc him when he ults you can buy time and kill him when it ends even slowing him and running is a big counter

I only main champs specifically Irelia, so i can cc him but the only problem is riot decided to change how long my E takes on cd and my E is basically my 1st step to Irelias full combo. Also even if my E is rdy it only lasts one second which is not even enough to get away.

Hazardus duceesSep 25, 20192 votes

The only problem I have with tryndamere is when I'm slowed and I'm gunning for his ass. Like... no... That only works if I'm running away. That's the whole point of the chicken noise. lol

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20191 votes

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The only problem I have with tryndamere is when I'm slowed and I'm gunning for his ass. Like... no... That only works if I'm running away. That's the whole point of the chicken noise. lol

Its so dumb bruh, like riot must've been havin the most troll day when they made him. They musta been like hey lets make a champ that scares other champs and weakens them oh but when hes bout to die lets make him invincible because hes scared of death.

preternaturalSep 25, 20191 votes

just ignite him a second into his ulti

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20192 votes

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just ignite him a second into his ulti

Sure dat can work, only for the both of us to die, because the second he becomes "invincible" I hav 2 back up cuz theres no point in fightin, and he gets to spin towards me, put fear in me n slow me or wack me wit his unfair crit autos until im out.

preternaturalSep 25, 20191 votes

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Sure dat can work, only for the both of us to die, because the second he becomes "invincible" I hav 2 back up cuz theres no point in fightin, and he gets to spin towards me, put fear in me n slow me or wack me wit his unfair crit autos until im out.

so let me get this right. you want to lose to trynd by any means possible. ok

YoungGodMCMXCISep 25, 20192 votes

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so let me get this right. you want to lose to trynd by any means possible. ok

No, if i can clean kill you ( drain you of all your hp faster than you can drain mine) than i should at least get away with the lil bit of hp i hav left. Yet Trynds Ult allows him to continue living for a whole 5 seconds and bypass all my attacks and on top of that add damage to his fury. Its straight up annoying and unfair and Riot needs to rework this guy.

MetalGear JotaroSep 26, 20191 votes

so,your entire point is basically "nerf the only champion that my sweet Irelia can not body with her FAIR AND BALANCED kit" how about all those champions that struggle against irelia,hmm?