Ruby Sight Stone Lowers the CD of your trinket

One of many options. But something definitely needs to be done with the Ruby Sightstone. I find myself not even upgrading it to Ruby anymore lately because it just isn't worth that gold...

I'd rather just see Ruby Sightstone give respectable stats for a lategame item. I don't feel it's ever worth buying.

Frankly, I'd prefer to see it up your max ward count by 1, so you can put out 4 instead of 3. Would be a HUGE help in those solo queue games where I get stuck with support but nobody buys a ward beyond their trinket, and only rarely use the trinket anyway.

I'd rather have Ruby Sightstone be a time based transformation of Blue Sightstone, similar to the Tear of Goddess items. Blue Sightstone should have an additional passive: "After 15 minutes, Sightstone transforms into Ruby Sightstone. Placing Stealth Wards reduces the timer by 20 seconds (10 second cooldown). Placing a Vision Ward reduces the timer by 60 seconds(30 second cooldown)."

Even if it's just a small "lowers cd of trinket" I feel it will be worth while and at the last a small indirect Neff to teemo and who doesn't like nerfing teemo?

Honestly I buy elixirs before I even consider upgrading to Ruby. 250 HP isn't worth 800g, and a single extra ward per back is simply meh.

for me i just normally buy a ruby sightstone if i have full build after they limited the wards to 3 wards there really is no point to upgrading the item and anyway why not just not even have and upgrade and just make the first item have the extra ward after a certain lvl

I would like to see another upgrade. Perhaps ruby crystal + 1000 recipe, thats 3000 total gold.

Stats should be in total 600 health, and perhaps add 1 charge of vision ward. Press the hotkey for the item twice in a row to get to the vision ward charge which refreshes when you back.

This allows for stronger endgame stats and more vision control for sightstone users.

Just my opinion but I would say it would not be a universally good thing. Riot is already trying to suppress junglers like lee sin and elise who can build it but if you add in coolddown reduction for trinkets then you give those champions a distinct advantage in the jungle. I think sightstone should upgrade into a ruby after placing to many wards or finding (and removing) enemy wards. Like a wriggles lantern for supports

This discussion happens a lot doesn't it? Here's a quick recap of some of the better ideas that have been thrown around, each bullet represents a separate idea.

• Refresh a ward stack for every ward you clear.

• Ruby Sightstone: Grants health. Sapphire Sightstone: Grants mana.

• A temporary shield on stealth wards that disappears after the ward stealths.

• Increase stealth ward limit by 1.

• Increase pink ward limit by 1.

• Increase cast range of wards.

• Reduced cooldown on trinket.

• Reduced cooldown on item actives.

There was probably many more but overall most agreed that increasing the gold efficiency of Ruby Sightstone is bad since it buffs champions like Lee Sin, Nunu etc. and also any champion that can take advantage of ward hopping. Some of these ideas also have alternative solutions for example you can have a passive that reduces the trinket cooldown by X seconds for every ward you clear. Which in my opinion is a better way of doing it since you have to participate in the vision game in order to gain something rather than just getting better stats for free.

Let Ruby Sightstone allow you to place an additional ward and everything becomes good.

What's a Ruby Sightstone? You mean that thing you get after you have 6 items, upgraded boots, upgraded trinket, and double elixirs running and you still have too much money? Yeah something to make that less of a trap would be good.

Then again, would probably like having their Sweeping Lens up too...

Could Ruby Sight Stone give a % bonus health similar to Ancient Golem? Give supports a bit more in terms of survivability? Or construct other Sight Stones that can grant bonuses for various classes. Crit or attack speed for the ADC, MagPen or CDR for APC, Health % for tanks/bruisers/supports?

Now you can pick up wards before they expire and re-place them.

Very good. It would make the pink ward trinket more viable.

It would be cool to see an offensive version of ruby sight stone

maybe Ability power or attack damage instead of health lol

It should upgrade into something AP heavy(junglers are basically all AD now) the only one i can think that might benifit too much is evelynn. Maybe something like this.

Ruby Sightstone + 1000g

Crystal Sightstone +500 Health +20 AP Unique Passive: Whenever a nearby lane minion dies without you dealing the killing blow, gain 1AP. Stacks up to 100 times. Unique Passive: Reduces the cooldown of your trinkets by 10%. Unique Active: -insert ruby sightstone ward text here- 5/6charges

How about this

Unique Passive: Ruby Sight stone allows you to place 2 extra wards from the 3 ward placement cap. Also your sight wards last one minute longer.

Hm.. I don't think we should do anything to give advantages over other trinket users.

I would rather they slightly increase the price and give a bit more HP, or something along those lines. The extra ward is already nice in certain situations.

The implications behind even more vision control sound nice, but be careful with this because could it cause junglers to pick up SS for the sake of objective control.

Its already bought frequently, and does its job. I don't think it needs any buffs.

Then picks it up so he can ward hop more.