Please bring us the old Fiora back...I ve been played this champion since the day she came ...And she was one of a few champions that I needed to climb up divisions ..I dont think that is good to change a champion without asking the players If they want to...A lot of people missed the old Fiora so do I so please consider the chance to bring her back...This would make the most players happy!
BeatzBoyFTW5 votesHer old kit was unhealthy & just plain questionable.
A riposte which can be totally ignored until the duration was over.
Has Heimerdinger's HP regeneration passive by hitting people.
A limited point & click mobility, where majority of players only use it to spammed it twice on this same guy plainly for tons of damage.
Point & Click ult to become untargetable & tons of damage for no reason.
ModWulf Helhammer4 votesOld Fiora was a toxic design that needed to be removed from the game. That fact that you relied on a single champion to be able to do well shows you were relying on that champion's strengths to do well, and not your own skill
MaytheForce2 votesI respect that and thank you for telling your opinion...I think yes that the old Fiora splash art and the design was awful for the data we have today with the technology and everything...But her spells was the best thing Riot made in the whole game...Thats why I asked them to bring the old Fiora back...
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesUlting and becoming untargetable, dealing a bunch of damage, and lifrstealing off of it is not a good design.
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesUlting and becoming untargetable, dealing a bunch of damage, and lifrstealing off of it is not a good design.
Every time Yi Qs? A different version of Fizz's pole? Yasuo's ult minus untargetable plus CC?
Sorry, about 90% of the abilities in League are 'toxic' and 'impossible' to balance. The only way to balance the game would be to have 1 champion and everyone plays it 5v5. The second there is a choice in abilities, items, characters, etc in a game, it is no longer balanced.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesYi doesn't lifesteal on q, Fizz has his own problems that I have with him personally (which doesn't necessarily make him OP for the game), what does Yasuo have to do with this?
I don't get your point.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesYi doesn't lifesteal on q, Fizz has his own problems that I have with him personally (which doesn't necessarily make him OP for the game), what does Yasuo have to do with this?
I don't get your point.
Yi can also Q every couple seconds. It's literally a Fiora ult every few seconds minus the lifesteal, but with no CD.
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesIt has a 9 second CD at max rank with 30% CDR. If he's autoing you, then he's going to have it more often. But don't say it has no cooldown
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesIt has a 9 second CD at max rank with 30% CDR. If he's autoing you, then he's going to have it more often. But don't say it has no cooldown
Dude I fricken love Yi, new and old. Not claiming he is OP. Saying it's the same kind of ability on a normal ability minus lifesteal.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThen that's a completely different thing.
For instance, having a skillshot that does damage is fine. A skillshot that does damage, ignores a portion of defenses, stuns in an AoE around the target, heals for a chunk of missing HP, increases damage based on enemy missing HP....
You get the point? The more things layered onto the ability, the more it becomes a problem.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesThen that's a completely different thing.
For instance, having a skillshot that does damage is fine. A skillshot that does damage, ignores a portion of defenses, stuns in an AoE around the target, heals for a chunk of missing HP, increases damage based on enemy missing HP....
You get the point? The more things layered onto the ability, the more it becomes a problem.
Except it is +1 attribute. In exchange for being her ult >_>
MaytheForce2 votesTake a look at Darius then ...Kills 1 with the ult and q the other 4...they lost all of them the half of hp and with 1 ult they are all dead...This is not about the Opness of a Champion...She needed a skill to use the abilities in the right time...Comperable with other champions which they dont need skill...I donot agree with you on that...She was just fine..
ModWulf Helhammer1 votesThat's on you for allowing a champion with no mobility (that deals a shit ton of damage if he gets to you) close the gap. Darius, as with all juggernauts, is supposed to be kited. Or else they will destroy you.
Old Fiora was wait till I got low and ult. Voila, you are now full heath again and your enemies are almost dead
Besthunterjk4 votesThe new fiora is toxic as well
%hp true dmg
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThat in and of itself is not toxic. It has its place, and as long as the champion is properly balanced around that, it's perfectly fine.
It's indicative of your skill that that is your reason you say she's a bad design
Besthunterjk2 votesThere is an easier way to say: "I think you're bad because of your opinion"
It is bullshit that you can never go in on her, because of riposte.
Your answer to that would probably be: "Bait her riposte". How woud you even do that? Imagine Jax vs Fiora, there is no such thing as being able to bait it, if you didn't use counterstrike she wont riposte.
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThen you auto attack her to death. If she's not using her defensive ability, then there's nothing stopping you from dealing damage to her.
And if you had given a more in-depth explanation of your problems with her other then "true damage, she's OP", then I would actually have some more discussion about her. But you didn't. You have a trite complaint used by people that don't like a champion (usually on the lower end of the skill bracket).
Besides that, why are we even arguing over whether or not she's toxic now? The point is that she was a problem before and needed to be changed. That fact doesn't differ with her state now.
Marshbouy2 votesRIP. you got targeted by the salty old fiora mains
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesTell me about it
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesRIP. you got targeted by the salty old fiora mains
Never played her in her old form. Played her twice in the new one. But her design wasn't toxic. It was worthless.