Shyvana needs changes

Messiah160··2 votes·667 views

Shyvana
Again somehow making this was a mistake am sorry this is my first thread made here for those who remember my early summary, but i think she is doing really fine in the jungle cause of her buff. But she is now mostly jungle pick instead of top pick cause she struggles to farm against early game counters, has to scrounge up in tower hug if her CS is low which gives the enemy time to either trade against her or when in jungle for CS, they can push her tower ASAP. So please buff her attack speed range just to help at least CS like 15 minions additionally or more in 12 minutes. 15 or 20 units should help at least she gets harrassed so hard early game and there are ways to disrupt her game by junglers which adds more lane pressure.

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Sir ArmaMalum2 votes

Fast forward to pre-season patch, get chilling smite where your smite can double as a ranged slow to enemy champions if you so choose, profit.

TheFallenShaw1 votes

Shyvana
Ok her jungle now sucks, because of no CC. She is a good duelist i get that but not great cause she feels like a one trick pony once BoRK is build people start buying tank items only especially in top lane. Her laning feels lackluster, being destroyed by range carries like Lissandra, Teemo, Vayne top or Urgot(sounds demeaning but good players can actually beat me real hard)

She isn't played in jungle cause of her no CC ganks, i mean whats the point of playing jungle if you cannot give proper ganks for your teammates, every jungle has CC except her. I recommend at least giving Flame Breath a new passive tooltip that gives slow if Burnout comes to contact but only for like 3 seconds at per target and passive on cooldown be like 6 or 8 seconds on the same targets applied to. Season is changing just buff her game up a little please.

Edit: I just remembered red buff gives you CC after coming in close contact but its a 3 minute buff what about mid game :/

Learn the game then cry, Lets start with your first line : "Ok her jungle now sucks, because of no CC" You don't need CC to jungle if you think you do you need more practice. 2nd claim : "She is a good duelist i get that but not great" Wrong Pure Wrong, She is one of if not the best duelist late game with her passive giving her both Armor and MR, not to mention her dragon form that boost this even further.

3rd Claim : "every jungle has CC except her" Really now.. well guys guess that means MasterYi , Warwick are no longer considered Jugs....

My point is you don't know your champion, and you clearly don't know the game. She has no CC but she's a natural tank and has 2 of her own gap closers, I don't even own her and played her maybe twice and know this. One skill I forget what its called gives her a MS boost which equals gap closeing. And the 2nd is her ult that jumps at target.

Marthian2 votes

Warwick does have CC. The stupid ult suppression you cannot avoid at all.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

He's getting a gameplay rework eventually and that's going to get squashed. ZenontheStoic had pretty cool idea that may stick. It was a skillshot leap that could snap you back to place you cast, but gave you just enough time to smite. Made for some pretty sweome baron and dragon steals in internal testing apparently.

But that's really really early ideation though, so it won;t be a while

Ayame Isaki1 votes

Her E gives MS. Also, while the current meta doesn't favor her in jungle, she is certainly viable if played well. I like running her top lane, personally.

Messiah1601 votes

Yeah i forgot about MasterYi Wait why would i remember him in the first place? The guy is retarded as jungler cause he has no utility to help ganks other than taking kills

Messiah1601 votes

Also i didn't see the new 4.20 jungle changes, but think of it 60s cooldown especially for stalkers seems a lot especially if you make a mistake its on you. But yeah if it helps with Counter jungling then am up for it :D

Edit: Since its been 3 days from Patch 4.20, heard a lot of people talking about how is she is great for counter Pick, Jungle wave clear and Dueling

Messiah1601 votes

Thread updated and i changed it from edit. She is doing really fine just help her top game a little should give her a kick.

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