oh hey ryze

Cebelon··3 votes·686 views

a level 5 ryze with tear and a dorans ring just 100% my hp when im a fucking tanky sion..... okay riot where is the nerf hammer ?

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venomous frost5 votes

that's ryze.

also, sion isn't tanky at level 5, nobody is.

Cebelon3 votes

and that justifices ryze damage in what way exaclty?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

That listing a tank or non-tank champion who're at Level 5 makes no differences.

trash sion2 votes

Sion is one of the least tanky tanks at level 5. His base stats are unbelievably low because he scales infinitely.

Besides that, it's your fault for going into Ryze's range when he was at 3+ passive stacks.

BlueBonquet1 votes

He has been nerfed, you should understand a champion before you even complain on the boards. I'll give you some advice since you obviously don't understand his abilities, his damage comes from his passive, when fully stacks he gains massive cool down reduction each time he uses an ability, you can tell how many stacks he has by looking at the white dots circling around him. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Cebelon2 votes

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Cebelon3 votes

thats like fucking saying i can go soraka mid go dorans ring and if i go back to shop and buy item 1004 i now can suddenly 1 shoot anyone in the enemy team with 1 Q thats the logic you guys just used

trash sion2 votes

No it isn't... much of Soraka's power is budgeted in her heal. Syndra and Ryze are all damage. If Soraka had damaging abilities rather than heals, yeah; she'd be able to do the same thing.

Also, backing to buy a mana regen item isn't comparable to a tear on Ryze because he scales off Mana and Raka doesnt.

Cebelon1 votes

doesn't matter if he can do bullshit retarded shit like this ryze can do i can play ANY champ in the game AND DO THE SAME cause BALANCE

Fjiordor2 votes

He scales off of mana. And for context: sydra can also burst anyone at level 6 100-0 with just a dorans.

Cebelon1 votes

know what FUCK it lets make TahmKench devour 1 shoot everyone in the game regardless of level or hp or what ever you know CAUSE BALANCE cause you know you guys think apprently ryze is balance that should be fine fight?

Allahu Barackbar1 votes

Hey there bud, I'll try to answer your question the best I can with a few points.

  1. Ryze is a counter pick to most close-range top-laners with very little inherent damage in their kits. A good Ryze will effectively dominate a tank top such as Sion, Malphite, Maokai, etc. if he is allowed to get within range.

  2. Ryze's passive DOES fill in as suitable counterplay. In fact, for a while, people thought it was TOO much counterplay, as his win rate dropped to almost 40% shortly after the rework nerfs. There are clear windows of power in his kit. While it is difficult for a lot of melee-oriented top lane champions to deal with Ryze, you CAN beat him with a strong lane-focused fighter/carry top laner. Ranged top laners (such as Quinn or Gnar) also tend to have an easy time against Ryze, due to them being able to outrange Ryze's ability combo.

  3. Also, when playing a tank in the top lane, understand that most ranged champions will abuse you. Few tanks have any meaningful long-range abilities that provide damage. Most long-range abilities are meant for CC chains. As a result, there is little chance that you will win against ranged, damage-oriented laners 1v1 as Sion when they're able to land two or three abilities on you before you can even close the distance to use YOUR abilities. However, if you can coordinate ganks, that's where your tankiness and CC become effective, and in team fights. You don't pick tank top laners in order to destroy your lane; you pick them in order to provide utility or CC for the team in the mid-to-late phase of the game, or to fill a gap of front-line champions.

I hope this was able to help you out a little, man. Best of luck.

Crossette1 votes

He's been like that for like 4 reworks.

Cebelon1 votes

oh and dissclaimer forgot to and something i diden't go close to ryze RYZE FLASHED to kill me

Cebelon1 votes

also another thing apprently red mark magic pen runes and item 3020 is enough pen to counter item 3111 item 3065 item 3156 wich is also kinda fucking hilariously balanced

Cebelon1 votes

like what incompitent people are working on riots balance team that haven not nerf the shit out of this fucking shit?

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