Why doesnt Silver Bolts work with Runans?

Neko Caitlyn··1 votes·1,060 views

Why not?

35 Comments

Shuyin1787 votes

2 reasons.

  1. That would be retardedly broken.
  2. It only affects one target at a time. If you apply 2 SB stacks onto something then hit something else, it will remove the bolts from the initial target when the bolt is applied on the new target.

They set up Runaan's where only the main target would get bolts so her SB stacks aren't bouncing from target to target never reaching 3.

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

Whys it broken? Fix how that interaction works then.

XinCrin2 votes

Picture this: Vayne melting 3 people at once with her silver bolts.

And you ask why is that broken.

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

KogMaw ???

XinCrin1 votes

Kog'maw sucks right now. Especially since they got rid of his machine gun turret mode on his w.

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

Why do other champions get to benefit from Runans and Vayne doesnt? Because Riot decided "f--- you Vayne"???

XinCrin1 votes

What specific benefits to other champions have with runans that make it so unfair for vayne to not proc her silver bolts with runans.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

And Vayne is still one of the highest winrate & pickrate ADC champions despite that.

Shuyin1785 votes

It does % Max Health True damage this means that no matter how tanky you are, you are going to die after so many hits.

Having that happen to 3 people at the same time would be extremely unbalanced.

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

It takes 3 hits to activate. Other ADCs dont have such a restriction. And she already has no AOE.

Shuyin1784 votes

You really don't understand Vayne if you think 3 hits is a disadvantage.

koreansmurf87514 votes

If vayne can go thru a whole team with her w, she would be broken. Single target is why her w is balanced

Kilanost1 votes

Having it happen to ONE person at a time is completely imbalanced lol

Calabok5 votes

if we remove silver bolts then maybe we can do it.

Kilanost1 votes

I'd be down for that exchange assomeone who plays mainly tanks lol

Marshbouy4 votes

inb4 the Ekko Vayne comparison is made Also obligatory "why downvotes?"

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Wrong Caitlyn.

Sims16193 votes

No, I'm pretty sure it's the same Caitlyn, just on a new account.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Oh yea, just noticed the "Why downvotes" comment he made.

XinCrin2 votes

Because silver bolts is single target.

And please, no vayne buffs

Chalizard2 votes

Why not? I don't get those downvotes, why buffing one of the strongest adcs and giving him option to kill three champions in a second is something wrong? Vayne is now not that strong till level 3 and before her first item she even can't kill solo two enemies, so that would be Perfect buff imo.

Bazilard2 votes

Dude are you mentally fine? Do you need any help? If so ill be happy to tell you why that would be broken and why vayne is one of the most OP champs that leauge has seen and buffing her would be as stupid as you are. She can kill every squishy champion with 2 autos lategame and tanky champs with 3/4 autos. With runnans she would kill 3 people in time of one. What a great offer why would you decline it. I see some guys building runnans on vayne for the waveclear so if you want you can buy it go ahead.

Billy VoHagen1 votes

Because that would give Vayne way too much team fight presence.

Hige1 votes

Silver bolts is coded as a single target spell that requires 3 marks to proc, it does true damage based on % of max health specifically because it's a delayed single target proc, if the skill was able to proc on multiple targets at once then the damage would need to be gutted.

CrazyBear19871 votes

Cause it would be broken AF same with MF passive same with Caitlin Passive

but for the sake of clarity it should say "basic on hit affects" meaning Unique ones from Champions are not included. but then it wouldn't include:

Twitch's poison passsive Ashe frost shot passive

so yea it's confusing and unclear AF

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

Other ADCs like Ashe etc can use Runans so it doesnt make sense why Vayne and only Vayne cant benefit from it.

UberAffe1 votes

Vayne specifically because her on-hit is the center-point of her kit and being able to triple its effectiveness would be absurdly broken. Besides the fact that her on-hit is % max health true damage which is already borderline broken.

UberAffe2 votes

It is unclear unless you specifically look into it outside of the game, but it does work with caitlyn unless they changed that in the last couple patches.

CrazyBear19871 votes

never tested it so i wasn't sure, is there a site where it states who it works on?

UberAffe1 votes

various wiki's and youtube

Neko Caitlyn1 votes

Why downvotes?

Vayne haters happy shes weak?

Kilanost3 votes

Weak? Put down the crack pipe

Wolfess1 votes

im pretty sure the skill specifically states only one target can be affected by silver bolts at a time, therefore only the main unit being attacked will get affected.

LongHair Fox1 votes

It is a correct interaction. Silver bolts are on auto attack and NOT on hit effects. Riot rarely uses on auto attack and the only place it matters is runans, but it does exist.

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