Banshee Veil and Abyssal scepter..... WTF

darkgaiden·5/8/2017, 12:52:41 AM·4 votes·1,019 views

is there a real thought reason for the swap between this 2 items??? they added AP to banshee's veil and removed AP from abyssal scepter, wich for some champions is like really destroying their build. Champions who used to rely on going face to face with enemy to deal more damage (lets say, Kassadin or Diana, for examples... mostly ap assasins) but who were not intended to be tanks, now have to get tank item (the new abyssal scepter is a tank item no matter where you look at it from) in order to obtain the passive effect of the item to secure that extra little bit of extra damage. Or champions who you wanted to build tank TANK, with Banshee's veil for that spell block now have to get some AP wich for many make no scence at all (rammus, mundo, udyr... yes, they have ap ratios, but they are not champions who go AP build, if that is the case, anything with ap ratios is good to go ap and i havent seen ap sivir or braum yet). The whole idea of swapping the 2 items makes no real scence to me and destroy builds that were usefull on champions before, what is the point of changing something that was working fine??? I havent meet a single player who is happy with the change at all (and i am not even start talking about the quest items (cough trash cough.. and i main support) or the champions rework, the 3 of them SUCK and are sooo unbalanced) this constant idea that riot has to "improve" is a nice goal, but when something is good and works fine, you dont improve it, otherwise you risk making it worst, wich you just did here guys. I honestly dont see the point of giving AP to a champion if you want the bansee veil shield, 100% of the champions benefit from the shield, but not 100% of the benefit from having AP, the same goes to the Abyssal scepter, as it is now, 100% of the champions benefit from the item, but not all of them are AP assasins or tanks who go in the middle of the fight.

5 Comments

sheldonbunny5/8/2017, 1:03:43 AM2 votes

From my understanding, they felt the shield made more sense on damage dealers, and the ability to lower ap defense for the team on tanks. I'm indifferent to the change. I see both points and just have been adjusting accordingly. I've only tested out the changes to the item 3303 line of items, but haven't had much difficulty acclimating.

I definitely see where you're coming from though. I guess i'm just used to the grin and bear it regiment that Riot puts us through.

REDREX75/8/2017, 1:05:42 AM1 votes

If you are playing a tank you want to get hit by spells so your squishier teammates dont get hit by it. Your job is to soak up damage for your team so now abyssal is better for you because it gives you health and deal 10% more ap damage. And since tanks have better base ap damages they will hurt more... Mages dont want to get hit by spells when they go in so banshees is perfect for them... Diana and Kassadin are just going to build banshees veil and become absurdly stronger because they can dodge one spell which is extremely important when they face a combo mage. And the new quest items are really good... spell theifs edge is amazing... are you trolling?

Frightning5/8/2017, 1:16:57 AM1 votes

It doesn't destroy their builds if you change what you build to adapt to the new items. New item 3102 is like tailor made for AP divers like Diana and Kassadin, likewise, the new item 3001 is great for tanks because it offers a debuff to nearby enemies, which they will typically have lots of in any fight their involved (tanks prefer to stick with teammates because they aren't capable of soloing enemies very well and Abyssal's passive makes nearby enemies take 10% more magic...that's not just from the tank himself, that helps his allies too). It's actually a pretty smart set of changes if you think about it.

Adaptation is a vital part of becoming good at League, and it pains me to see how hard most players resist making changes, whether it's changing their build, what position they play a champion in, or not liking riot's changes to the game (to be sure, they have made some mistakes; e.g. KogMaw rework which they actually admitted was a mistake and reverted it).

MysterQ5/8/2017, 1:57:17 AM1 votes

I don't like my team flaming me for building Banshee's on my Sona support =. Maybe I am just bad though.

Nik Nikerson5/8/2017, 2:01:27 AM1 votes

So... adjust your builds?