Where is Rakan going?

BatmanObviously··10 votes·1,163 views

There was mention that Riot would be working on adding more defined secondary roles to champions that are otherwise stuck in a single position. I'm hoping Rakan is somewhere on that list and I think he'd be a great support jungler.

I think Rakan is incredibly fun and I've loved him since he came out. I immedietly tried him out as a solo laner and jungler to see if I could find some success and he's always lacked a little something to carry him.

I'll say this now: I think buffing his AP scaling isn't the way to go just to make him a better laner. He has some good base stats on his abilities and his damage is fair considering all the utility and CC he comes with too. I don't want him to suddenly become a burst mage that can't be dealt with 1v1 let alone a support that out scales his ADC like Brand and Zyra.

The only change I can think to make would be to adjust his passive so that auto attacking neutral monsters would also lower it's cooldown and completely remove the "hitting an enemy champion with an ability" clause (which hardly seems to make a difference). They would have to choose between pushing the lane and getting the shield faster and I think all other changes might hurt bot lane too much.

I think he'd be a healthier addition to the jungle. The biggest change that I think would be necessary would be to let his Q proc the heal on at least the Red and Blue buffs (in addition to the Dragons, Rift Herald, and Baron). Good jungle champions need either great sustain (like Warwick) or rapid AoE clear speeds (like Rek'Sai) to be successful. Considering Rakan's W is his only AoE spell (that isn't his ult) it won't be the latter. Letting it proc on all large monsters (similar to the ones that you get Dark Harvest stacks from) might be too good but I think that it would be worth testing as well (although that might be too much sustain). Changing that wouldn't even change the lane phase other than starting your jungler with a healthier clear and getting a random heal off on a cannon minion when possible.

To bring back a point I made earlier: his passive shield is on a 40 second cooldown level 1 and we can't expect that to save us from the mighty chickens on our first couple clears. The cooldown is also only decreased by AA or hitting enemy champions with an ability. Even if this only applied to the Epic Monsters as well I think it would be a great addition and encourage early game objectives like Dragons and Rift Herald. Adding both the Q proc and the passive adjustment might be too strong together though.

Any thoughts on this or other champions you want to see in different roles?

Also I highly recommend my On-Hit Duelist Rakan build: Guinsoo's Rageblade, Blade of the Ruined King, Phantom Dancer, Frozen Mallet and Merc Treads. I like to go Nashor's Tooth for the AP mixed damage and cooldown but Black Cleaver is also a great choice if you want more of an AD focus. Phatnom Dancer can also be switched with Bloodthirster. Press the Attack, Overheal, Legend: Tenacity, and Last Stand with Revitalize and Font of Life. It's terrible in team fights but soooooo much fun when you run into champions 1v1 once you catch them. They will actually sit there and fight you for days before figuring out you are getting a three hundred health shield ever ten seconds on top of all the healing. Then chase them down with Frozen Mallet or BoRK and watch a sea of question mark pings from your teammates. Take it into the practice tool or bots game and go wild.

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General Theritt7 votes

Rakan You have yet to see the true form of our bird god. Try this

item 3027 item 3065 item 3047 item 3143 item 3110 item 3001

You have never seen stupidity of this level. The mask can be thrown for Gargoyle, Warmogs, or Thorn, and as always, tabis can be swapped for merc.

Go toplane, your friends and family will disregard you

Moonfall Saber1 votes

Unkillable with that build lol

Ahri Baka3 votes

I'd love that But sadly they removed item 3306 :(

ChaddyFantome1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jiBVwQAW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-01T13:34:20.026+0000)

I'd love that But sadly they removed item 3306 :(

WHY RITO!?! [sg-janna]

BatmanObviously2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jiBVwQAW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-01T13:34:20.026+0000)

I'd love that But sadly they removed item 3306 :(

They mentioned they would try and bring this active and the Frost Ghosts back on newer items. The mini Sivir Ult would be great on a new brawler item (I think they have the smallest and blandest item pool) and it would help them a lot

Fawksea3 votes

yes to this, adding some QoL changes so some champs can jungle is a great idea, support junglers are lacking, ivern is not the funnest to play and rakan being able to jungle would add more diversity.

Escheton2 votes

I'm not sure, but he just pressed R. So he's going there Fast.

YuGiHo2 votes

i wish riot would just make him and thresh melee now withe these support item changes

Moonfall Saber2 votes

What if his q split and into 2 and did 50% damage to enemies behind the first and deals 50% bonus damage to monsters. Also his passive can be lowered by hitting monsters. Then he's all set.

BatmanObviously1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moonfall Saber,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jiBVwQAW,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-01T17:33:58.261+0000)

What if his q split and into 2 and did 50% damage to enemies behind the first and deals 50% bonus damage to monsters. Also his passive can be lowered by hitting monsters. Then he's all set.

I think it would be a nice bonus for laning if all the damage applied on the first target hit but the feather would continue to it's max range and still proc the heal without damage. It wouldn't affect bot lane too much since it would be just minor sustain at that point.

SamBunzly2 votes

If he's still as good as he was prior to the snowdown update, Rakan should currently be an off meta, yet still viable pick for jungle or top, though it may be a bit more difficult than others.

Personally, I can see Riot tweaking him to make him a bit more viable top-lane. Being an off-tank support with reasonable damage could put him in a very nice spot to build more tanky. I can see him having a good advantage early game, but once the laning phase is over he'd be better off helping to push other lanes and start fights. Definitely would see a bigger focus on his tankiness, likely in the form of some base stat or scaling buffs. Maybe a change to his Base damage and Scaling to make it a bit more useful topside, but still keep him viable for bot.

These are my personal ideas, these do not reflect the wishes or intentions of Riot. I don't now what the heckle they'll do with him.

DragonShea1 votes

Rakan should be a melee-ish poker that trades, sustain and then heals up damage. His playstyle should revolve around stonewalling the lane allowing him to CS and scale into teamfights where he becomes relevant. That is one path riot could take in making mid lane rakan viable.

Moonfall Saber1 votes

What if his q split and into 2 and did 50% damage to enemies behind the first and deals 50% bonus damage to monsters. Also his passive can be lowered by hitting monsters. Then he's all set.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

saving this for when I wanna do it

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