Fizz kit doesn't allow counter play what so ever

so, what part of his kit doesn't allow counterplay?

Is it his range? oh wait hes a melee assasin that can be bullied at early levels by ranged attacks and spells.

wait.. is it his ultimate? Oh wait its a dodgeable skill shot.

Is it the high damage on his W? OH wait! he needs to auto attack an enemy/Q them and wait for a few seconds delay before he can get that off.

Is it his amazingly reliable waveclear with E? OH thats right it has a 110 mana cost and leaves fizz vulnerable to all ins, poke,ganks and is most of his damage early game.

people are still being butthurt about fizz in 2018? yes, he does offer counterplay. if you play him sometimes you would know easily how to counter him

I feel like Fizz is only strong if he isn't forced into a matchup where he can't 100-0 Otherwise he is forced to sit and do nothing for laning phase

You realise people can see your match history right?

Interesting, now we circlejerk Fizz, I thought Assasins were garbage with delayed burst that can't kill anymore. /s

Literally classic case of "lost to champ QQ on forums.

http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=HebiKuroha+

Not only did you pick Aurelion Sol into Fizz but you also didnt even rush a Zhonyas which would of completely protected you from his burst. In fact your build was just awful all around.

Is it like zoe? Cause i can't counterplay her when i get E'd from no where into half of the lane and then get one shot at 12 minutes in when the zoe only has half an item.

Fizz needs some tweaks to remove a little of its safety with the current damage being so huge.

He has way to much damage and fast escape. Compared to Zed, for example.

whats a fizz?

I agree , I hate it how I miss my farm just to perma poke him and aa him as a mage , and he only farms , and when he is on low hp , he runs all in to me at level 3 and first blooded

You can Dodge his r You can dash out of his E Qss He also has a huge range disadvantage in 99 percent of his matchups

Thats already more counterplay than adcs. Why in the world are people still qqing about fizz?

you can see his ult from a fucking mile away, his w is delayed by 1.5 seconds. they only time he truly doesn't have counter play is when he has 25 mejais stacks and is full build before your midlaner has 3 items.

also is aurelion vs assassins, if fizz doesn't buttfuck you the fizz is absolute garbage

The issue is Fizz has too much safety. He can get away too easily after making mistakes, and is not punished enough. He can go through walls, which is similar to how hard Talon is to catch. It's an issue when you burn everything to try to kill him, but he jumps in the air using invincibility frames, and then can dash away, and then go through a wall. He also usually builds Zhonyas/Stopwatch which also adds to the annoyance when trying to kill him. I think they need to remove his ability to go through walls or lower his cooldowns on the dash or his hop. The enemy should be able to kill him if he makes mistakes, instead of him getting away to safety like nothing happened. It's really frustrating and hard as a single laner to pin down a Fizz, and instead you have to ask for other players to help, when you shouldn't have to.

In general, I look down on invincibility frames in games and consider it weak additions to playstyles, since they could make it more interactive to both players.