The best support in the game is the jungler with the safest and earliest clear.

22bleJ··3 votes·246 views

How can riot still be okay with Ivern's current state? He also has the safest 3 buff invade and 3 skills with no contextual counterplay. His winrate is higher tthan shaco's before his last round of nerfs, and yet since he's the newest jungler, Riot still won't touch him.

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Fed by Snu Snu1 votes

Lulu can jungle?

meowwow71 votes

she could when trailblazer was a thing but ofc when trailblazer smite happened everything could have

A Basic Island1 votes

Phreak played her in the jungle during spotlight

Obviously she's a jungler

22bleJ1 votes

Lulu and ivern are both supports. Ivern has a higher winrate. Ivern is the better support.

UnboundHades1 votes

if its a high win rate with a low play rate then its fine but if its a high win rate with a high play rate its broken (Im to lazy to check iverns play rate)

Rewt1 votes

Ivern does jack shit early. If you see ivern picked on the enemy team pick literally any champ with some semblance early dueling potential and a CC basic ability. Now you have 2 options. A. Try and guess what buff he is gonna try and jew and kill his ass and prevent him from putting the mark down. B: ward your buff you arent going to take and try and steal his buff. So you do a buff trade.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

and 3 skills with no contextual counterplay.

I upvoted until i read this part.

Hold this Down vote Plz stop throwing this term around mindlessly as if using it makes your argument anymore valid. All you are doing is devaluing the term to the point where it losses all semblance of meaning.

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