A Zac revert would be nice

Cat ín The Hat·4/14/2019, 9:25:50 AM·20 votes·9,882 views

Zac is in a bad spot ever since he got reworked. His kit should be more skilled and stuff but i think his current kit is just boring. I loved his old ultimate jumping on everyone during teamfights knocking everyone asside. his current ultimate is just not fun to use. his clear speed in the jungle is super slow and his damage is nothing. when i play against a master yi or udyr they always get 3 lvs ahead of me because they clear so much faster. His current Q is better then the old on i say. but if u play Zac in the top lane for fun then his old Q was better.

I think lots of zac players would like a revert. i stopped playing him when he got reworked . he used to be my third favorite champ and now he isnt even in my top 20 anymore

17 Comments

DerMangoJoghurt4/14/2019, 12:07:11 PM5 votes

Zac - We’re currently testing a mostly reverted version of the Ult with a few improvements to help it have more clear gameplay and understandable impact.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/wlGaL2WZ-post-msi-gameplay-improvements

The Ecdysiast4/14/2019, 9:48:54 AM5 votes

Well, it's really that tanks in general are in a bad spot since their core items were gutted and every class besides them was given far better options for early game.

Nameless Drifter4/14/2019, 5:33:15 PM3 votes

They are reverting his ult which honestly is a big reason why I stopped playing Zac due to the stupid changes. If his ult gets rework, Zac will be really valuable and once again viable to us Zac mains once again. Bouncing to victory.

DONT REVERT ZAC 4/14/2019, 4:35:33 PM2 votes

his clear speed in the jungle is super slow and his damage is nothing

How was this different before the rework? Zac is a tank. And like every other tank his jungle clear is slow. That's why tanks in general are not in a good spot in this current meta. Every jungler aims to kill scuttle crab as early and soon as possible. Zac ( and every other tank) can't do that. So it's obvious you are gonna lose vs Udyr.

I think lots of zac players would like a revert

I main Zac since season 3. And to be honest, I would not like a revert. Just because it's more fun for me to ult 3-5 people late game and win the fight.

His kit should be more skilled and stuff

Just because he can't death mark and one shot the adc, doesn't mean he is unskilled. He is just a "simpe" champion. (like every other tank)

his current kit is just boring

I don't know about you, but ulting 3 or more people, always drives me a soul orgasm

nGio4/15/2019, 3:45:49 PM2 votes

His highest win rate was top lane, where he functioned as an AP sustain bruiser. The rework gutted his damage, survival, and range, making him unplayable. This rework wasn't asked for or needed. Riot embarrassed themselves with this shit rework.

Saevum4/14/2019, 12:10:50 PM2 votes

I really liked to jump around with old Zac's Ult. The new Q is cool.

XJ999999999999994/14/2019, 3:02:09 PM2 votes

yeah old zac was fun. never played the new 1 but his new old seems too team comp reliant.

Sukishoo4/14/2019, 5:36:09 PM1 votes

It's been way too long for a "revert". They don't keep that stuff. It'd be another rework is what you want.

SlimeyNickoli4/14/2019, 7:22:55 PM1 votes

Zac's ult is way more impactful now than it was before, He is my second go to jungler and I usually have a great time ulting the bot lane under tower for a nice 1v2 double kill

Daftedpunk4/14/2019, 8:03:56 PM1 votes

I really miss old zac but I prefer new q. Super happy seeing them revert his ultimate. Hope they turn zac back into a Ap bruiser or off tank

OrangeMarine4/14/2019, 12:22:26 PM1 votes

when i play against a master yi or udyr they always get 3 lvs ahead of me because they clear so much faster.

thats the problem with so many old junglers who used to be able to jungle. Now if u dont have AoE clear, sustain, and quick single target dmg for clearing u just get outpaced MonkeyKing used to be completely viable, currently now hes trash bc no sustain, and has slow single target dps. Fiddlesticks used to be viable, trash now bc clears too slowly

and add to that basically every tank jungle who is trash and unplayable now because they clear too slowly.

i really dont know what the solution is, but jungle feels terrible now unless you're playing a champ with AoE, good single target dps, sustain, Graves RekSai XinZhao Khazix Olaf JarvanIV Hecarim Kindred

the best junglers all have that same formula in common, aoe/sustain/single target dps...

so that's a start of a solution to either nerf them by way of changing the camps, or by buffing champs without these traits by changing the way they interact with jungle camps.

keep camp XP nerfed, reduce damage, increase hp, but increase respawn time? something like that but jungle diversity has been butchered