Garen and master yi and other noob champs

3afskneen·Mar 16, 2016·4 votes·7,839 views

It is such a shame, that a game we love and play and chose over other games like league of legends contains very easy and noob champs like garen and master yi. It is really a shame. A game that worked and created fun and interactive champions like zed, yasuo... etc A game that surpassed dota and all other similar games ... has such noob champions, very easy to play, very OP, and make you hate the game. and after a while playing with your top skills ... you find that your opponent garen or master yi is unstoppable just because he is right clicking ... of course decent players have the dignity not to choose these champions ... but you are still faced with players who gives you a bad time with them, claiming it is skill when it is just a stupid champion that needs to be changed

31 Comments

FaildotEXEMar 16, 20167 votes

See, you aren't thinking fully of what can counter a Garen or a Yi.

Hard CC stops Yi in his tracks. If you have stuns, roots, knock ups, use them on him and he's rendered useless. Giving you ample time to damage him. Blinds also work, as he is mostly an AA champ plus his Q. I've seen a fed Yi, full build, die to a Teemo just because of the blinding dart. That's the kind of champion Yi is, all in balls to the walls. Kill or die in the process.

Garen is a juggernaut. Sure, other juggernauts do the job better, but they don't have his sustain. All you need are the right items to stop a garen in his tracks. Items such as Blade of the Ruined King, Mortal Reminder, and other damaging items geared towards helping you stop him. If you play smart, instead of calling certain champion Noob Champs, then maybe you will find that these "OP" Champions aren't as strong as you think. Every champ has their weakness. You just need to find it and exploit it.

4th Chiming LambMar 16, 20161 votes

I was going to say exactly this, actually. Thanks mate!

AnagsMar 16, 20166 votes

If these champs were super easy and couldn't be out played then you would see them in every pro game or they would be pick/ban. Oddly enough that isn't the case. If they are so brain dead easy and OP then feel free to play them.

These posts are just stupid.

Nik NikersonMar 16, 20165 votes

If you didn't have noob champions, who would noobs play?

4th Chiming LambMar 16, 20162 votes

Play a game with me now, so I can honor you.

MalhammersMar 16, 20163 votes

Sure they are easy, but they also have a low ceiling in terms of effectiveness. Champs like Yasuo and Zed are much harder, yes, but their ceilings are MUCH MUCH MUCH higher. So it is a trade off. The learning curves on Garen and Yi and similar champs end after like the 3rd game played, meaning you cant really teach yourself any new tricks, won't get any better with the champ, etc. Harder champs have much longer/higher learning curves, meaning it may be 30+ games until you are able to utilize them to their full capabilities. That, simply put, is the tradeoff.

Mecha MaIphiteMar 16, 20163 votes

garen is the most mechanically intensive champion in the game

HoodRatTingzMar 16, 20161 votes

Give this man a damn cookie.

blfUvZ8YbuMar 16, 20161 votes

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garen is the most mechanically intensive champion in the game

Lux main says this.Failfish.

CrazyDragyAug 22, 20161 votes

Yeah, except when he's running away ,has and his health is full after 2 seconds with all the armor and health regen

darkmatchwaldoMar 16, 20163 votes

Sounds like someone got stomped by a sated yi and now they're salty about it.

L Psy KongrooMar 16, 20162 votes

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fun and interactive champions like zed, yasuo... etc

You really are nuts, aren't you?

GULAG 4 UApr 6, 20171 votes

They are interactive and fun to play. Not fun to play against.

AttackOnTeemosMar 16, 20162 votes

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It is such a shame, that a game we love and play and chose over other games like league of legends contains very easy and noob champs like garen and master yi. It is really a shame. A game that worked and created fun and interactive champions like zed, yasuo... etc A game that surpassed dota and all other similar games ... has such noob champions, very easy to play, very OP, and make you hate the game. and after a while playing with your top skills ... you find that your opponent garen or master yi is unstoppable just because he is right clicking ... of course decent players have the dignity not to choose these champions ... but you are still faced with players who gives you a bad time with them, claiming it is skill when it is just a stupid champion that needs to be changed

After carefully looking at your match history of you only wanting to Play GangPlank/Shen top, Jungle Elise/Kindred, Blitzcrank/Thresh Support, and personal fav one that I wanna bring up is Veigar Mid. You-have-no-one-to-talk.

Hell Thresh alone has enough power to stop a Yi off someone and Shen can easy shutdown a Yi early-mid game.

ChargeItDownMidMar 16, 20162 votes

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T M RiddleMar 18, 20161 votes

I think that Yi is easy to play at a low elo level, but harder at a pro/high elo level. And I wouldn't say he's far harder to play. Zed and Yasuo require different skills than Master Yi.

GULAG 4 UApr 6, 20171 votes

Lol no. I have 170k on yi and 50k on yasuo, Yi isn't far harder than yasuo.

3221slyfoxhomieMar 16, 20161 votes

to be honest they were designed with lower levels playing em but you know what fuck anything thats easier to play and does decent dmg like all the flavor of the month champions

COUGH THIS Malzahar COUGH PLEASE GUT HIM MOST OF THE TIME HE ONLY NEEDS ONE E TO CLEAR A WAVE

FreshAsFebrezeMar 16, 20161 votes

Malzahar is so easy to counter. Uh, buy a item 3140 and bye bye ult. Oh, he has no escapes so he's easy as shit to gank when flash is down. His E does't wave clear until you get pretty damn good damage and early game, you have to have his minion working with his e to wave clear and in order to pop his minion, you have to use a lot of abilites and oopppps he's now OOM

AttackOnTeemosMar 16, 20161 votes

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is so easy to counter. Uh, buy a and bye bye ult. Oh, he has no escapes so he's easy as shit to gank when flash is down. His E does't wave clear until you get pretty damn good damage and early game, you have to have his minion working with his e to wave clear and in order to pop his minion, you have to use a lot of abilites and oopppps he's now OOM

I mean see why you are bad a mal but you know you can still hit minions with his basic attacks to help pass the void aids around for mana. You dont HAVE to spam none stop until you run out of mana. That's why it's called just..farming.

FreshAsFebrezeMar 16, 20161 votes

Fix your english then get back to me

P.S: I've had a 60% win percentage with malz every season except this year and season 1. Season 1, I didn't exist on League. This year, the meta doesn't bode well for malz with QSS running rampant and engage tanks.

AttackOnTeemosMar 16, 20161 votes

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Fix your english then get back to me

P.S: I've had a 60% win percentage with malz every season except this year and season 1. Season 1, I didn't exist on League. This year, the meta doesn't bode well for malz with QSS running rampant and engage tanks.

P.S.S. You could be challenger for all I care :P. There are only two main tanks you going to see every single game if they are not banned. Naut and Malphite, and I know for a FACT most people fail to build MR half the time on those tanks. (Torment mask and void staff still eats through them.).

Only Plausible tank I can see going mid against a Malza would be Malphite. However how many of them do SEE building a item 3140 ??.

FreshAsFebrezeMar 16, 20161 votes

Tanks never go mid period. QSS and Tanks are two separate ideas. ADCs or Assassins see a malz in game and automatically buy a QSS and a hexdrinker. Every game I play malz, they buy a QSS and hex. Plus, screw your fact about tanks not building MR. All they have to do is get a item 3102 and a item 3512 and most damage from AP is mitigated considering their health. You would never want to waste a malz ult on a tank anyway. Your "gut" malz argument is awful, period.

MeserionMar 16, 20161 votes

Malzahar not op! hes been nerfed in the past and with the Universal AP nerf, he far from OP now. Also how to stop Malzahar wave clear? intercept his E when it jumps, early game he just lost wave clear and the damage is not that much.

I'll agree MasterYi is op, arguably worse than AP YI, because he has all the sustained damage of AD Yi and the sustain of AP, and they playstyle of spamming Q to do 90% of your damage. He is a plague.

AttackOnTeemosMar 16, 20161 votes

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Malzahar not op! hes been nerfed in the past and with the Universal AP nerf, he far from OP now. Also how to stop Malzahar wave clear? intercept his E when it jumps, early game he just lost wave clear and the damage is not that much.

I'll agree is op, arguably worse than AP YI, because he has all the sustained damage of AD Yi and the sustain of AP, and they playstyle of spamming Q to do 90% of your damage. He is a plague.

Bro, when is the LAST TIME you seen an AP Yi? Be honest here, Alpha Strike AP Yi died the moment they updated him to what he is now.

HoodRatTingzMar 16, 20161 votes

They have huge weaknesses and they are op if you let the snowball out of control.

SwiftKitten88Mar 16, 20161 votes

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A game that worked and created fun and interactive champions like zed, yasuo... etc

you lost my vote there....

DU BaymaxMar 18, 20161 votes

the fact that you think that garen and yi are quote "very OP" tells me that you've no idea what you're talking about

Fuh QueueAug 22, 20161 votes

I haven't taken the time to look at OP's match history, but im quite certain that a Yi or Garen ripped them a new asshole recently.

And you're wrong, higher tier players don't choose easier champions because they simply don't work well. Against a weak opponent, a yi will destroy everyone, against a skilled team, he gets CC'd and explodes. Obvious exceptions are people like cowsep that one trick champions like Yi.

All in all, people can play whatever the hell they want, and if you cant build or play things that counter them, it's 100% your fault.

UltraNova123Apr 6, 20171 votes

The thing is, there are some noob champs who are op, there are some who are very weak, and there are somewho are op and can be counter. Tryndamere for exampls is op, easy, has a stupid slow, a "not die" button, amazing sustain from his heal, and free crit.

This sort of thing just cant be countered.