Old Sion's ultimate, you know, the ability that gave large amounts of attack speed and 100% lifesteal to the user and half to teammates.
This fits not only thematically with a super sustain melee carry, but it also fits lorewise with Aatrox perfectly, considering his sword drinks the blood of his foes, and he inspires those whose side he fights for into an uncontrollable bloodlust.
Just my 2 cents.
rtbf359605803 votesAatrox is in a weird spot because of lack of fore sight by riot.
If Aatrox is ever "Good", being a sustain tank, meaning his tankyness comes from healing in a fight, he will be pick ban, and all other fighters become obsolete, because you build damage and heal through any damage you take.
This is the fundamental flaw with sustain tanks. They are simply unhealthy, as everything must be at their power, or better.
Aatrox will most likely lose his sustain fighter status if he gets reworked. Or be more in line with sustain on a cool down, like darius and illaoi.
Lifesteal is a very problematic stat, and it's partially why Spell vamp was removed.
Golden Tager X1 votesSustain is actually a very unreliable "tank" stat, as it relies on nobody ccing the sustainer, but if someone cc's them they lose all tankiness and will probably die before even getting control back depending on who or what cc'd them.
Whereas in contrast things like armor, mr, and health are consistent tank stats as no matter how much cc they get hit with they will still tank as much as if they didn't get cc'd.
Lifesteal is not as broken as people think, as when this ability was on old Sion, he was considered a troll pick, and that was more sustain than anything else league has ever seen, doesn't sound too broken when someone with a 75 ad steroid, 100% attack speed and lifesteal steroid is a troll pick.
The real problem is ranged lifesteal, as since they kite and stay far enough away that even if they get cc'd they will not be in every enemy's range so they don't get killed instantly, whereas a melee champ will be in range of just about every champion on the enemy team so as soon as they get cc'd they are dead pretty much instantly.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votes[{quoted}](name=KudoSekai Gale,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j5riYXXf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-09T03:57:49.208+0000)
Aatrox is in a weird spot because of lack of fore sight by riot.
If Aatrox is ever "Good", being a sustain tank, meaning his tankyness comes from healing in a fight, he will be pick ban, and all other fighters become obsolete, because you build damage and heal through any damage you take.
This is the fundamental flaw with sustain tanks. They are simply unhealthy, as everything must be at their power, or better.
Aatrox will most likely lose his sustain fighter status if he gets reworked. Or be more in line with sustain on a cool down, like darius and illaoi.
Lifesteal is a very problematic stat, and it's partially why Spell vamp was removed.
no the fundamental flaw is the whole concept of a melee carry doesn't work. you either assassinate the adc or they assassinate you which aatrox can't do in a team fight against a good team. neither can most melee carries in a balanced state
Sona x Rubick3 votescorrection: it didn't give 50% lifesteal to his allies, but made 50% of the hp that sion was gaining via his lifesteal transfered to his allies in a 275 aoe range (which made the spell trash). Which means that sion needed to attack to be able to heal his allies.
Poske1 votesI actually completly agree with that idea
He could use Sion Ultimate. But I dont want his other 3 abilities to be anything like sions xd
It would be also cool if his ulti also augmented HIs q and E rather then just making his W cool in that case
GULAG 4 U1 votesYeah, it fits his lore, but it's one of the biggest bullshit skills in the game. Not a good idea to bring it back.
Golden Tager X1 votesIf it was so bullshit, then explain how Sion was considered a troll pick, bullshit is tahm's w, this was a powerful ability but it could be completely stopped by simply ccing the user and killing them while they can't sustain.
GULAG 4 U1 votesthe thing is old sion's ult just isn't something balanced.