Ashe 5.9 nerf revert

Glad Justice·Feb 29, 2016·30 votes·2,167 views

ashe was nerfed back in patch 5.9 by .67% or 12% AT LVL 18 attack speed growth per lvl to counter the auto 15% attack speed from the masteries, which turned into warlords bloodlust granting 30%. Even with the 30% boost from the masteries, she was still considered by many to be sub-par as an adc, outshined by the caster adcs or raw dmg adcs out there. that being said, now warlords no longer provides any attack speed at all meaning the proactive nerf back in 5.9 is just a straight nerf and imo should be reverted back evenly or even more so considering

25 Comments

Celeste BenalFeb 29, 201622 votes

Riot reverting a nerf to a champion that was enacted because of other game changes? huehuehuehuehuehueuhehehue

Don't hold your breath.

Silents429Mar 1, 20166 votes

But she is fine right now? Don't just buff and nerf for fun.

MrWasjigMar 1, 20161 votes

Don't just buff and nerf for fun.

But that's the balance team's entire modus operandi.

SaiannaFeb 29, 20164 votes

If they were to revert Ashe nerf, then they would have to revert about 30~~ other nerfs on other champions.

And I hope they will.

QuephaMar 1, 20164 votes

Ashe did not take Warlord's last patch, she took Fervor so the change to that mastery did nothing to her. In fact, her winrate went up this patch and is now very high at 53%.

JasiwelMar 1, 20164 votes

The recent buffs were enough. There is no need to repeal nerfs. She is doing fine at the moment and is in line with other ADCs.

Lady HammerlockMar 1, 20161 votes

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The recent buffs were enough. There is no need to repeal nerfs. She is doing fine at the moment and is in line with other ADCs.

totally just played her was super behind but good utility+decent damage made up for it

when those kog maw changes push Ashe will be second kog maw if you leave her in a fight for just enough time for her Q to activate(with deaths dance that shit is straight up stupid)She will have insane lifesteal and fire a literal barrage of machine gun bullets + hurricane interacts very strangely with her Q allowing it to hit more then 2 extra targets

SirPurrrMar 1, 20163 votes

Ashe is super strong and absolutely does not need any buffs.

WhyNotTryndamereFeb 29, 20162 votes

I give this post 5 out of 7, Ashe being one of the first AD carries.. I mean marksman's, should not be forgotten about but these constant nerfs will stop all the young children from even consider trying out this kitastic champion. much love frost archer. - Tryndamere

WhyNotTryndamereFeb 29, 20162 votes

It's Markswoman! -Ashe every night before we go to bed

XonraFeb 29, 20162 votes

Ashe needs a bit more love than that, currently, and sadly. They should revert the nerfs to her Q from not long after her "rework" as well. It made sense at the time, and I'd leave off the stacks on the tower business, but she is just so meh right now.

There isn't really a place in the meta for a utility adc (honestly there rarely is in any meta) with considerably less damage than the more top tier adcs with also more mobility for the less utility. There is just no reason to pick Ashe over Lucian/MF/Kog/Corki/Ez Even though corki is mostly seeing play in mid, I'd still pick him over Ashe in their respective current states, 10 out of 10 times regardless of role.

WadeWilson1337Mar 1, 20161 votes

Shes in the top 3 winrates right now...and when Kogmaw is in that mix, thats saying something.

Lady HammerlockMar 1, 20161 votes

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Ashe needs a bit more love than that, currently, and sadly. They should revert the nerfs to her Q from not long after her "rework" as well. It made sense at the time, and I'd leave off the stacks on the tower business, but she is just so meh right now.

There isn't really a place in the meta for a utility adc (honestly there rarely is in any meta) with considerably less damage than the more top tier adcs with also more mobility for the less utility. There is just no reason to pick Ashe over Lucian/MF/Kog/Corki/Ez Even though corki is mostly seeing play in mid, I'd still pick him over Ashe in their respective current states, 10 out of 10 times regardless of role.

Fun fact thanks to pre-season a change was removed HER Q DOES WORK ON TOWERS stack the focus on minions then Q the tower

XonraMar 1, 20161 votes

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Fun fact thanks to pre-season a change was removed HER Q DOES WORK ON TOWERS stack the focus on minions then Q the tower

I actually wasn't aware of this as I dropped Ashe after the nerf chain and didn't bother keeping up with her specifically. Thanks for letting me know.

Lady HammerlockMar 2, 20161 votes

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I actually wasn't aware of this as I dropped Ashe after the nerf chain and didn't bother keeping up with her specifically. Thanks for letting me know.

Twitch ChatFeb 29, 20161 votes

i have a feeling that ashe is in a fine spot right now but a point of correction is that in preseason they changed her passive's damage bonus to frosted targets to not be an actual crit so she hasn't been getting anything special out of warlords even before the warlords change last patch.

WadeWilson1337Mar 1, 20161 votes

Ashe is soooooooooo good right now. I hate ADC, but im strongly considering picking her now to max out my mastery on her in normals. I love her so god damn much, she even has counterplay and such while being this strong. If they toned down her numbers justtttttttt a little bit she may be one of the most balanced champs right now in terms of power and counterplay.

Smitty ManjensenMar 1, 20161 votes

People never learn, stop asking for buffs when she was recently buffed, I think the last buff will make her pretty damn good now.

Glad JusticeMar 1, 20161 votes

are we all talking about the same .67% attack speed per lvl reversion. you guys make it sound like she'd be the next perma ban if she gets 12% more attack speed at lvl 18. and 53% win-rate?? with the very few people who actually do play her in ranked (6%) she has only a 50% winrate. which is not neutral, considering the low pick percentages mean that more than likely only the veteran ashe players are playing her and the % still isnt positive

QuephaMar 1, 20161 votes

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are we all talking about the same .67% attack speed per lvl reversion. you guys make it sound like she'd be the next perma ban if she gets 12% more attack speed at lvl 18. and 53% win-rate?? with the very few people who actually do play her in ranked (6%) she has only a 50% winrate. which is not neutral, considering the low pick percentages mean that more than likely only the veteran ashe players are playing her and the % still isnt positive

http://champion.gg/champion/Ashe It's actually the players just picking up Ashe that are winning most of the games.