Boards›Gameplay

Wrong Runes and Masteries

Chono··82 votes·5,408 views

I am sure we have all been there, we get into game and to our surprise we notice that we forgot to switch the runes and masteries for the champion we are playing.

Although hopefully this isn't a common occurrence for you it is nonetheless a frustrating and game changing experience.

So I have a proposal for your riot. Allow players to preset their masteries, rune page, and summoner spells for certain champions. So if you played Leona support last game and this game you are playing Sivir as ADC your masteries, rune page, and summoner spells will be set to what you have preselected for the champion. So in case you forgot to change those settings during champion select you won't be handicapped with support characteristics as an ADC.

Of course certain champions can take different roles or modify their role depending on the situation they should still be able to change their masteries, rune page, and summoner spells in champion select so that they can fit their desired role. This proposal is just a safety measure to prevent mishaps when players forget to change their settings during champion select.

45 Comments

Nameless Voice4 votes

Rather than having to pre-select anything, just make it automatically remember the rune page, mastery page, and summoner spells which you used the last time you played that champion.

Most of the time, you want to use the same setup each time that you play the same champion.

Visigoth4 votes

I had to play with AP runes on Khazix. You don't know the struggle until you're passive is doing more damage than your primary damage ability

Aids cuz League3 votes

Or you can keep it the way it is and after you got your role setup, remember to change them, you can name them for who uses them, or what theyre for, I doubt Riot would actually cater to something like this, another problem I see is there is 30-60seconds of free time in Champion Select after choosing your champion to select these and get it figured out, so either you aren't paying attention or you are one of those people that just leaves until its their turn to choose, and then you lock in a champion without saying where you are going or what you're doing.

Nameless Voice28 votes

Or the selection bug changed your runes/masteries back after you'd picked them. As it does every now and again.

BakugoBestBoy5 votes

Now THIS^ is a real problem. No idea how many times this has happened to me in ARAM where I'll pick the right pages and notice 1 second before the game starts that they changed by themselves to some other random sh!t. AP Zed and Tank Katarina always fun..... O.o

IcyPepper1 votes

AP Zed, probably not...

but Tank Katarina isn't that bad, I think. Sure, your base damage isn't going to be incredibly, but your kit would force the enemy to blow their cc on you (which you want, as the tank). And unless they check your build (even if they do, you're Katarina, so habit might kick in anyway) they're going to focus you. Focusing the tank.

Great, now I'm thinking about trying it. I'll be a walking target, but it'd be so worth it.

junglerboy161 votes

That is why full tank Teemo is the best, spam laugh and watch as you auto-taunt every enemy in sight.

IcyPepper1 votes

yes please.

I played support Teemo once, and got focused every single time -_- people went OUT OF THEIR WAY just to kill me every chance they got.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

Once you die like the 10th time, then really, you may aswell throw yourself out for the kill, and try to run as fast as you can because your worth like 50g by tht point

Apollocliptic2 votes

I've been hit by a selection bug that picks the previous or a different set of masteries to what I wanted and messes up my game, I usually play supp or jungle tank, so even when it happens I can recover, but for people that swap between adc and mid for example, can ruin the game for the whole team.

Personally, I think the option to change them in the first 10-30 seconds in game would solve any accidents, forgetfuls or bugs.

Also, I most commonly see wrong runes when two people agree to lanes (like swapping with each other) and someone else messes it up, so they have to decide quickly who is going to compromise. Like the last pick yasuo that forces an Orianna to go support. You're busy trying to solve the problem of poor communication or selfish players, that you don't have the setup you need to actually play.

TenSlashTen3 votes

its even better when you change them but then they change back somehow before the game starts. rofl.

a Friendly Troll3 votes

Do you wipe your own ass or do you want your mom to do that for you too?

Dumb everything down more and more so it becomes fair for people like you.

No thanks.

Chono5 votes

This is a real issue. I don't know how this is dumbing down the game at all. People make mistakes or real life comes into the mix and you forget to switch things up.

I don't think changing things up in game would be smart. It would allow people to change things after knowing where the enemy champs are going most likely and may alter the game; also implementing such a system might be difficult to program.

Loading the last used masteries, rune page, and summoner spells for the champion is a good alternative

LeeDark13 votes

Quality of life changes aren't dumbing anything down. If you need other people to have the disadvantage of poor runes and masteries so you can win, that's pretty pathetic, dude. When did something "becoming fair for people" turn into a bad thing? Can't you win with your actual skill at the game rather than depending on the pregame mistakes of someone else?

177A Bleecker St2 votes

i like this idea

Umbral Light2 votes

Yes, I want this. Do you have any idea how bad it can be to play Zed with the Mastery Page of a tank? So many kills I missed because of that missing damage!!!

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

It's strange... Call me crazy... Insane even... But...

... I'm ok with this. XD

... I'd Rather see it happen to a Nidalee though.

Monsta Moo2 votes

+1

Daedalus8712 votes

Not opposed to this but there are other things I'd like to see worked on first.

Åron2 votes

This would be really nice. A small change can go a long way.

Volt Cruelerz2 votes

While this wouldn't solve issues like taking my mage vs AP versus a talon, I'd certainly rather have some AP than be loaded out in my ADC runes. Wholeheartedly agree.

UPfreely2 votes

it would be nice if we had a book of presets for each champions and could have like 100 of them or something. we could then even share our presets with our freinds and forumers to see what people are doing right/wrong :D

BakedLotion2 votes

just make it so u can change them for the first 30 secs of the game

Space Bum1 votes

I'm not sure exactly how but I'm sure there is some kind of exploit that could be had by doing this or at the very least a Mountain of bugs that would occur.

BakedLotion1 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Like Hugs,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=isrvZ8x8,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2015-03-27T15:13:58.092+0000)

I'm not sure exactly how but I'm sure there is some kind of exploit that could be had by doing this or at the very least a Mountain of bugs that would occur.

How would there be an exploit? It would simply just change your stats lol. It's like selling and buying items at the shop.

kcStranger2 votes

Summoner spells doesn't seem like such a big deal and could be weird in draft, but having default rune and mastery pages would be nice. I have 20 of each so sorting through them can get pretty harried when I lock in late (e.g. in blind pick).

slippykitten1 votes

a better solution would be to give the player the option of setting runes and masteries before leaving the fountain at the start of a game.

Carpe Victoria3 votes

{quoted}

a better solution would be to give the player the option of setting runes and masteries before leaving the fountain at the start of a game.

I like this idea but it would completely change blind pick (good? bad?) and i don't think it's possible since the game has to load up your choices from the client prior to the actual match starting.

slôw1 votes

Or you could just... fix it externally? Spending time on a feature a small portion of players will actually take the time to use (like item menu whatever thing) is pretty not helpful, especially when you can use sticky notes or get better at remembering and not have to use the feature.

things get added in order of impact, and this would not have much impact

MarshallBananna1 votes

this should have existed from day 1.

At the very least, the game should remember your last mastery/runepage combination for each champion.

Missing Number1 votes

would be nice, what would be nicer still is presets per champion, sometimes i play 1 champion 1 way, sometimes i play that same champion another

but yeah, this would be a start

LOL Spammer1 votes

Or be able to change runes and masteries in first 30 or so seconds of game.

Pastramka1 votes

Good, like it

GGMystic1 votes

This is just speculation, but I think Riot already has this under their large list of QoL changes to be implemented in the "future". I base this solely on the fact that you can create custom item sets and associate them with champions.

Celeste Benal1 votes

I agree. We can have custom item sets for champs. Why not custom rune pages and masteries?

EvilRabbitt1 votes

So many comments with downvotes, its amazing. But I do have to agree, you will probably end up swapping your runes and masteries. I personally change mine midway if I feel the mood to just enjoy a match take me, so I'm personally fine with "tank katarina" as someone below said. My 2 cents, no disrespect op.

tempname129c1 votes

Too bad RG's too busy not giving a single fuck while collecting everyone's monies.

Otherwise, this'd be a great idea.

SolusInCadere1 votes

This

Dilitra1 votes

A simple fix would be have a pop-up appear after all characters have been locked in that is a reminder. I mean, technically there already is...so maybe make it bigger and more central? And have the ability to where if you have minimized your game it will put the screen back up like it does when a queue pops.

youngjake931 votes

I like ease-of-use improvements. However, ideally people should change their masteries based on the match ups(it won't matter for most ADCs, but for everyone else it does). For example, the 10% resistance to slow mastery is useless if none of them have any slows. It does seem like you're adding something to the interface that could handicap you for using it all the time. A good game designer probably doesn't want fluff on their interface that is only semi-useful sometimes.

I don't think this is a bad idea, but I figured I'd give you constructive feedback that wasn't LOL WHAT KINDA N00B CAN'T REMEMBER THEIR RUNES AND MASTERIES

I like the idea that someone mentioned of just having rune and mastery selections default to the ones you used last on that champion rather than the ones you used in the last game. That should help without altering the interface and you can just change it if you want a different page.

Lobode1 votes

I think it would be nice to have a small window of time that you could change runes/masteries (and maybe even summoner spells and skins) at the start of the game. Then after that time you can still view your stuff but not change it. Or make it so that you can change stuff until you leave the fountain. Either way would be great in my opinion but I would hate to have people constantly changing stuff through out the game.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

This happened to me in an ARAM once on Vayne, so I decided to build full AP just for fun.

Lich Bane + Nashors + Deathcap + Void Staff + Sorcs

I carried. LOL. If only Luden's Echo existed back then... would have been even better!

FantasySniper1 votes

I want champ preset builds so bad. +1

im s0 bad1 votes

I think the problem is that people name their pages something stupid so that they can't tell the difference between any of them. But I name my pages after which role or champion it's for. And I've never forgot to change my masteries/runes after that.

Gwellaouen1 votes

No. It's fun when I don't take the right runes/masteries. Like, being an op Thresh Support. XD Or a tanky adc Tristana.

Anyway, it's only my opinion but I always make good things happen after a mistake and always having fun.

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay764 comments
7,167
votes
3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay156 comments
3,510
votes
UPVOTE FOR URF
Gameplay606 comments
2,440
votes
Yes plz.
Gameplay456 comments
1,721
votes
3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay114 comments
1,716
votes
When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?
Gameplay634 comments
1,383
votes

More by Chono

How many times have you uninstalled and then reinstalled LoL?
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous4 comments
1
votes
Looking for a challenge? Try go
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous1 comments
1
votes