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How to face a top (tp smite) shyvana

XxwinerxX·Apr 9, 2015·1 votes·4,426 views

i just face a with as Darius( ). I don't know what should i do.

What she did is keep pushing lane into my turret.Then she make use of the time when reseting to clear camps. Around lv 7/8, she get a and .I have a .The problem is when i try to trade to her after 6 she just smite me.The 20% damage reduction was like a small exhaust.As a result,I lost the trades.

At late game shy just way tankier then me due to the .The out weight my so hard by the 65s small exhaust and the bonus hp.

I tried to out push her so that she will miss the cs in lane.I bought a to try that.However, she just get back in time and not losing much.I think shy can solo a camp with smite easily.

To summarize,I cant trade with shy at 6 due to the small exhaust. I can't push really hard early on due to the jungle pressure and mana issue i cant win late game since she is way tankier

As a result, what should i do?Are there any way or champion to counter this type of ( ) top laner at this moment? P.S. sorry for my poor English

5 Comments

Voluug13Apr 9, 20153 votes

Well, in Shyvana's case, you should have used another champion. Darius isnt the best dealing with tankier that him champions, much less ''get close, lose half your hp'' Shyvana.

Someone with good waveclear and good sustain and/or poke could be perfect for this, as well as anti tankiness. Basically Trundle, Vlad, Rumble and Teemo shit on her.

I really hope they solve this lane Cinderhulk problem without nerfing Cinderhulk itself. Shyvana (and manaless champions) yet again abuse the fuck out of things.

In this case, I think it should have been better to build Hydra/Tiamat first for the sustain (very important against Shyvana and the like), and then ZZ'Rot plus Warmogs. Shyvana deals a lot of mixed damage, so its hard to counterbuild her. ZZ'rot in this case is pretty good because the active portal can help you go to base and not leave your lane completly defendless, while the voidlings push the lane. It also gives you both Armor and MR, so you only need some HP to balance things out.

Drunk RummateApr 9, 20152 votes

freeze the wave by your turret if she is actively pushing. keep it in range of your turret so that she can't auto attack the caster minions without taking a turret shot. and if she goes in your turret range then go ham on her ass.

The5lackerApr 9, 20151 votes

Did you mention it to your jungler?

Because you and your jungler could've brutalized the shit outta her when she wandered off into the jungler to clear Rocks/Gromp.

Darth Pixy MisaApr 9, 20151 votes

ZZrot is a great idea at the right time it woukd make it impossible for Shy to leave the lane

XxwinerxXApr 9, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Well, in Shyvana's case, you should have used another champion. Darius isnt the best dealing with tankier that him champions, much less ''get close, lose half your hp'' Shyvana.

Someone with good waveclear and good sustain and/or poke could be perfect for this, as well as anti tankiness. Basically Trundle, Vlad, Rumble and Teemo shit on her.

I really hope they solve this lane Cinderhulk problem without nerfing Cinderhulk itself. Shyvana (and manaless champions) yet again abuse the fuck out of things.

In this case, I think it should have been better to build Hydra/Tiamat first for the sustain (very important against Shyvana and the like), and then ZZ'Rot plus Warmogs. Shyvana deals a lot of mixed damage, so its hard to counterbuild her. ZZ'rot in this case is pretty good because the active portal can help you go to base and not leave your lane completly defendless, while the voidlings push the lane. It also gives you both Armor and MR, so you only need some HP to balance things out.

I see your point . i think i made a mistake to rush item 3068 instead of item 3074 .However i am wondering if i push that hard with a champ like darius will make me become a really easy targte for jungler.

Also you mentioned 4 champ Vladimir Teemo Rumble Trundle .You said those champ can fk her in lane but shyvana just keep farming.She wont stay in lane for long.I played a game with tp smite shyvana top after darius game against a quin.As u know quin is a lane bullier against top bruiser.I do have a really bad pre lv6. However,when i get my challenging smite, she cant deal any more dmg to me.I basically tank her dmg then push her to the turrent and return to the turrent.

I think one of the strong point of tp smite shyvana is even she lose in lane she can still farm the jungle to get back.

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Did you mention it to your jungler?

Because you and your jungler could've brutalized the shit outta her when she wandered off into the jungler to clear Rocks/Gromp.

Well my jungle that game was pretty busy at bot and mid. Just like TSM game never help top. Actually, before she farm in the jungle,she will push at least 2 wave to me. I have to push back.I cannot counter jungle really well.

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